Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

Didn’t the new SL forbid it, or was that fake news?

When has Iran done what the "SL" has said in recent years?

 

[Lulldapull]

I don't think the US cares about Arabs as much as you think. Destroying Arab countries is even good for the US and Israel as it cements the dominant status of Israel in the region even further and it forces the Arabs to spend money on reconstruction, which will most likely be done through American contractors.


But we cannot target the US mainland to inflict heavy damage and we haven't been able to kill American soldiers with our missiles.


The Strait of Hormuz has failed to achieve its main objective: Raise oil prices to unbearable for the world economy.

As I said, during the US-Iraq war in 2003, oil prices even surged to $120. Adjusted for inflation, that is about $217.19 in today's prices. The Strait of Hormuz worked initially, and it may work in future if Iran completely shuts down the strait, but it isn't even remotely similar to a nuke. And Trump is not bending.

If Iran wants to use the SoH as a nuke, oil prices should surpass $200 per barrel or it won't work.

It doesn't even matter if Irans been able to kill a lot of Americans. They fuckkin fled their posts when Iranian drones/ missiles swarmed their bases. They just knew they stood no chance.

So they put the poor third world people/ mercenaries to man the battle stations n fuckked off no?

Now we see that it was a bad move by the US.

Their bases are rubble.

 

[mangekyo]

You guys are missing the forest for the trees (peace deal specifics).

Iran has forced the US into a peace deal that is somewhat agreeable to entirely an improvement from previous position for Iran.

The US thought it could do as it pleases and "destroy all of Iran", "wipe out a civilisation" all the fantastical bluster and nonsense just to capitulate to Iran after finding out they are completely powerless to achieve any military superiority over Iran.

Yes this is mostly because Iran has Israel by the balls and Israel has America by the balls so it would be like if South Korea and Japan controlled US politics and economy and North Korea could simply threaten to annihilate South Korea and Japan to defeat the US. But I digress, Iran wins with any peace deal because America failed to perform all that it promised about using some B-2s to level all of Iran (impossible) and all that nonsense westoids and their ganges blowhards always talk about.

In reality, piss weak. Paper tiger USA.

Good job Iran showing the world for the last year just how much of a paper tiger the USA is.

I just want to object to something that pisses me off. People see Iran’s performance and immediately yell US is a paper tiger. But US would have obliterated most countries on earth without them even being able to launch a thing. US is not a paper tiger. Iran is a lion.

 

[HAIDER]

Pisrael has 200 of them and still got slapped down.

Well, the concept of dirty bomb still exist , possible make with 60 percent graded Uranium. When they have delivery system.

 

[ShapurII]

It doesn't even matter if Irans been able to kill a lot of Americans. They fuckkin fled their posts when Iranian drones/ missiles swarmed their bases. They just knew they stood no chance.

So they put the poor third world people/ mercenaries to man the battle stations n fuckked off no?

Now we see that it was a bad move by the US.

Their bases are rubble.

Their bases are far from rubble. The US still retains the capability to launch war on Iran.

Honestly, when you look at the situation from the perspective of an average Joe, the US adventure in Iran hasn't cost the Americans much. Close to $100 billion, which is not that much for the US's one trillion dollar military budget, and fewer than 15 deaths.

 

[mangekyo]

When has Iran done what the "SL" has said in recent years?

Yeah, that’s fair.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Yes, it's our money but we cannot access it and we're cash short. Also, as far as I have read in the Iranian media, half of this money will be transferred to Iran before signing the deal, no? Even $12 billion is a lot of money.

Besides that, our storage tankers are almost full. If the US lifts the blockade on our oil exports, we will be able to empty our storage tankers before we have to shut down our oil wells.

Also, diluting the HEU is not one of our commitments in this deal. It's part of the broader agreement that is supposed to be discussed in this 60 day period.

I am not convinced they will let us have free access to our own money. even the $6 billion sent to Qatar that we were supposed to have access to was limited to food and medicine, even though our officials lied and said there are no limits (in the end Biden changed his mind and we didn't see it anyway).

ultimately, we did not impose real costs on the enemy, especially Israel, meaning that whatever we compromise now in a desperate move for fake peace is only temporary

Araghchi has turned into another Zarif ... did you see what he said about the previous failed negotiations?

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[Lulldapull]

Its old saying of Chairman Mao .........with the weapon you can fight the war but you can't win the war.

Haider bhai nukes are relegated to junk status today.

Nobody wants them, cuz yous can''t use them anyway.

This is a huge issue now.

Who wants to commit suicide?

 

[That_Guy]

Nuke is nothing in this era, Russia has more then 6000 nukes, but still fighting war in Ukraine, who is getting everyone backup.
But nuclear tipped tank shells by US during Iraq invasion, which lead to mentally unstable babies birth, detail in UN reports.

"Nuclear tipped" is misleading.

It was depleted uranium shells, which are hard enough to penetrate tank armor, which is why it was used.

Yes, it did lead to birth defects though, because of its extensive use in the war.

Also, Ukraine started fighting on its own. The Europeans and Americans only joined after Ukraine survived the initial invasion, because they thought Russia would dominate Ukraine...it did not.

On a somewhat related note, the era of super powers being about to go to war and beat middle powers is now over. Ukraine and Iran have both proven this.

 

[mangekyo]

Their bases are far from rubble. The US still retains the capability to launch war on Iran.

Honestly, when you look at the situation from the perspective of an average Joe, the US adventure in Iran hasn't cost the Americans much. Close to $100 billion, which is not that much for the US's one trillion dollar military budget, and fewer than 15 deaths.

You’ll have to wait for the aftermath. If the war ends with the pre-war status quo, you’re right. But if the war ends, the unsanction us, we have control over Hormuz, they F off from the ME and the Arabs stop sucking their dikkz. Then clearly we won unanimously

 

[Persian Gulf]

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they killed Khamenei and the remaining officials, formerly such loyal allies to him, are rushing to make peace with his killers only after a few months ...

 

[Cash gk]

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Am I missing something? What about the nuclear

 

[Lulldapull]

Their bases are far from rubble. The US still retains the capability to launch war on Iran.

Honestly, when you look at the situation from the perspective of an average Joe, the US adventure in Iran hasn't cost the Americans much. Close to $100 billion, which is not that much for the US's one trillion dollar military budget, and fewer than 15 deaths.

Yeah ok.......if we take your word for it.......then keep on goin no?

Why stop?

Finish da job no?

Like the colluddzz hendu says......eeejy peejy matey mate no?

Keep goin no?

Whats da matter?

 

[ShapurII]

I am not convinced they will let us have free access to our own money. even the $6 billion sent to Qatar that we were supposed to have access to was limited to food and medicine, even though our officials lied and said there are no limits (in the end Biden changed his mind and we didn't see it anyway).

ultimately, we did not impose real costs on the enemy, especially Israel, meaning that whatever we compromise now in a desperate move for fake peace is only temporary

Araghchi has turned into another Zarif ... did you see what he said about the previous failed negotiations?

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Yes, but I am 100% certain that the Emiratis sent Iran an airplane with $3billion in cash. Why? Because when it happened, I was randomly checking flight radar to see what was happening over the region and I noticed a strange flight from the Emirates in Tehran. A day later, the news said that the Emiratis had paid us $3 billion in cash.

So, as long as the US is going to pay us in cash, I think we're good. We really need to do something about our economy before continuing the war. Fighting without money is impossible. And our so-called "allies" are neutralizing our efforts to keep oil prices high. What other options do we have?

As for Araghchi, you know that I am not surprised. You guys cheered a new era in the Islamic Republic where the IRGC would call the shots, but I knew nothing would change. Late Khamenei wasn't the issue, the whole system is full of incompetent corrupt people.

 

[TumbaX]

I don't think the US cares about Arabs as much as you think. Destroying Arab countries is even good for the US and Israel as it cements the dominant status of Israel in the region even further and it forces the Arabs to spend money on reconstruction, which will most likely be done through American contractors.

US cares about energy infrastructure in West Asia, if taken down cant be set up in 5-10 years and no one invests in US economy as blindly as Arab sheikhs what if critical water desalination plants are taken out will these kingdom stay in power?

And lol no Americunts has lost all their capability of infrastructure set up, fckrs cant even create half a dozen ships in a full year, Americunta is living in their last few glory days.

In few years you will see Americunts thrown out by various countries and hopefully one day Diego Garcia either by peace or war ….