Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

Iran only has the HEU because Trump burnt Obama’s deal.

Nonsense. Iran started 20% enrichment in 2008. There is little difference between 20% and 60% in terms of enrichment capacity required.

If Iran had intended to acquire nuclear bombs - it wouldn’t have signed the Obama deal.

Iranian nuclear program has had zero purpose for anything other than a nuclear weapons program. Iran never had a meaningful civilian nuclear program.

It’s frustrating when people ignore basic empirical facts.

It's frustrating when people do not understand nuclear technology.

As for leverage - the only reason Trump has bent over is due to the chokehold on SoH.

Trump has not bent over. Iran is bending over. The Strait of Hormuz became ineffective as soon as Iran accepted the premature ceasefire. Iran failed to raise oil prices to even the US-Iraq war time.

HEU is just a ruse to bomb Iran into a failed state.

I thought you said HEU was not the issue and our geopolitical threat was the issue. Pick your bullshit please.

But that has failed because Iran checkmated Trump with SoH.

Iran has been checkmated, not Trump. Trump is imposing his terms on Iran and Iran is folding as always.

 

[Persian Gulf]

You dont go to war with Iran

Iran brings war to you and makes you pay for the shipping

Iran published satellite images of the confirmed drone/missile strike against the US AR-327 Early-warning Radar system in Bahrain.

The radar is capable of tracking ~470 km away


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[ShapurII]

Deputy Chairman of Parliament's National Security Commission:

until a "final agreement" is reached:

- $300 billion reconstruction mechanism does not exist

- US sanctions remain in place

- Iran does not enrich uranium or rebuild destroyed nuclear facilities

- US forces do not withdraw from the region

however, Iran immediately opens the strait and the US starts to end the naval blockade on Iran.

Basically, surrender of Iran as Trump wanted. "Starts to end" is open to interpretation, meaning it's not going to happen.

 

[MS Sandhu]

I think they figured that out in the first days of the war and deployed low cost home built 358 and 359 systems and they have had a great success with them

Its my personal opinion so take it with a grain of salt but i think these heatseeking homegrown lowcost air defence systems are what prompted trump to seek a settlement, hopefully they will build further on these systems and make their airspace a certain deathzone for any enemy aircraft.

Problem is Iranian Offensive arm significantly under-performed than was actually expected.
TP -1 & 2 failed to build deterrence despite firing hundreds of ballistic missiles and literally exposed Iran for infiltrations and now here we're.
If Iran was successful in building the deterrence in initial counters, Trump wouldn't have dared to launch a lengthy compaign.

 

[Desert]

I think the situation in the gulf is good for iran currently , let me remind you that Saudia is to host 2034 WC and working hard to establish facilities for this occasion (they would accept any peace agreement) not to mention the tension between Saudia and UAE ( Since UAE supported southern yemen rebel group with the lead of alzuwbidi which saudia bombed his army and equipments).

 

[PK781]

This is a temporary pause to the war in my opinion.

There are 2 points of concern for Iran in my opinion: Israel’s increasing military presence in the UAE, and Israel’s continuation of military operations in southern Lebanon.

The continuation of the military operations in southern Lebanon should have been addressed in this deal, but it hasn’t.

yup, we don't see it lasting much......hence its just a pause, actually every conflict will just have temp pauses.

The world will be living on the edge, as israel wants to expand its geography at the expense of the islamic countries and would even trigger WW3 for their nefarious designs

 

[BananaRepublic]

Basically, surrender of Iran as Trump wanted. "Starts to end" is open to interpretation, meaning it's not going to happen.

This is another ceasefire. You will have a few more of them until Trump is out of power.

Trump and Israel’s objective was to turn Iran into a failed state and force Iran to give up its missile and drone caiability.

USA has lost the war because neither of those objectives have been met.

In addition, Iran now has established supremacy over the GCC poodles.

HEU is just a ruse. Because Iran had already conceded on it last year but Trump refused to take yes for an answer.

He has now bent over and dropped the demand for missiles and regime change.

And has accepted the original deal - which included HEU!!!

 

[Nawnaw1]

good thread

'Bringing in Oman etc.' has to be done, because America can't sell full open Iranian control as anything other than a full capitulation of the US and it's hegemonic status. Think about it, would Oman ever want to even charge a fee or close Hormuz? Impossible. This is Iran doing it, but on paper 1-2 small Arab countries have 'a say'. Otherwise it's open full capitulation of the US. Think of the consequences of that in Asia. Imagine being Taiwan, South Korea or Japan, thinking this capitulated US is going to do anything against China. It's ridiculous. At least that's how I see it. When Iran, with simple drones, small boats and threats/statements can close Hormuz, why would they 'give it away' for nothing? It makes no sense.

If anything, this war has proven that Irans 'mullah leadership' is probably one of the best in the world and most adaptable. How quickly they adapted after june 2025 is amazing.

 

[BananaRepublic]

I think the situation in the gulf is good for iran currently , let me remind you that Saudia is to host 2034 WC and working hard to establish facilities for this occasion (they would accept any peace agreement) not to mention the tension between Saudia and UAE ( Since UAE supported southern yemen rebel group with the lead of alzuwbidi which saudia bombed his army and equipments).

I think PDF Iranians keep forgetting the reason for this war!

It wasn’t about HEU! Because Iran had already conceded on it last year.

This war was about regime change and missile and drone capability.

Iran has not surrendered on any of them.

Hence Iran has triumphed and USA Has failed.

 

[030292]

Problem is Iranian Offensive arm significantly under-performed than was actually expected.
TP -1 & 2 failed to build deterrence despite firing hundreds of ballistic missiles and literally exposed Iran for infiltrations and now here we're.
If Iran was successful in building the deterrence in initial counters, Trump wouldn't have dared to launch a lengthy compaign.

This war has been coming for the past 30 odd years, just needed someone like trump in the white house to initiate it, its good that they got it over with and now the nation can concentrate on developement, if there ever was a military solution to this, trump and natanyahu would have exploited it on the day they found out about that since feb 28, the fact that iran fought two super powers and came out relatively unscathed is a testament to their offensive and defensive capabilities.

How many countries in the world do you think can resist against a combined offensive of the two most technologically advanced super powers? The fact that iran, a nation that has been sanctioned for the past 47 years and still not only defend but attack back is an objective undeniable evidence of their power, and in my opinion thats a detterence enough to make sure that no other nation tries such a foolish adventure against iran in the future.

 

[MS Sandhu]

I think PDF Iranians keep forgetting the reason for this war!

It wasn’t about HEU! Because Iran had already conceded on it last year.

This war was about regime change and missile and drone capability.

Iran has not surrendered on any of them.

Hence Iran has triumphed and USA Has failed.

Only Non-iranians with no shit in fight are actually happy about ending with Iranian Victory and they are convincing Iranians that "look ! you have absolutely smacked Trump into submission"

 

[BananaRepublic]

yup, we don't see it lasting much......hence its just a pause, actually every conflict will just have temp pauses.

The world will be living on the edge, as israel wants to expand its geography at the expense of the islamic countries and would even trigger WW3 for their nefarious designs

Jewish strategy of constant war - works against weak neighbouring countries.

Jewish strategy yields land grab after each attack.

Hence the cost has payback.

Jewish strategy doesn’t work against Iran because Jewish objective of land grab is not viable against Iran.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Only Non-iranians with no shit in fight are actually happy about ending with Iranian Victory and they are convincing Iranians that "look ! you have absolutely smacked Trump into submission"

Only a low caste Indian with zero emotional intelligence thinks this war is only against Iran.

It is an attack against Muslims and every Muslim has a stake in this war.

 

[MS Sandhu]

This war has been coming for the past 30 odd years, just needed someone like trump in the white house to initiate it, its good that they got it over with and now the nation can concentrate on developement, if there ever was a military solution to this, trump and natanyahu would have exploited it on the day they found out about that since feb 28, the fact that iran fought two super powers and came out relatively unscathed is a testament to their offensive and defensive capabilities.

How many countries in the world do you think can resist against a combined offensive of the two most technologically advanced super powers? The fact that iran, a nation that has been sanctioned for the past 47 years and still not only defend but attack back is an objective undeniable evidence of their power, and in my opinion thats a detterence enough to make sure that no other nation tries such a foolish adventure against iran in the future.

There are multiple nations on Earth who can send Americans back to stone age. What you are even talking about?
And Short legged Israel is a superpower? Lol.

 

[PK781]

I think the situation in the gulf is good for iran currently , let me remind you that Saudia is to host 2034 WC and working hard to establish facilities for this occasion (they would accept any peace agreement) not to mention the tension between Saudia and UAE ( Since UAE supported southern yemen rebel group with the lead of alzuwbidi which saudia bombed his army and equipments).

you got it right, but in future if the conflict explodes in the middle east, i'm afraid that it will eventually engulf the entire area, unfortunately even KSA and Egypt may get affected when that happens.
Time will tell, for now enjoy the pause