Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
Deputy Chairman of Parliament's National Security Commission:
until a "final agreement" is reached:
- $300 billion reconstruction mechanism does not exist
- US sanctions remain in place
- Iran does not enrich uranium or rebuild destroyed nuclear facilities
- US forces do not withdraw from the region
however, Iran immediately opens the strait and the US starts to end the naval blockade on Iran.
until a "final agreement" is reached:
- $300 billion reconstruction mechanism does not exist
- US sanctions remain in place
- Iran does not enrich uranium or rebuild destroyed nuclear facilities
- US forces do not withdraw from the region
however, Iran immediately opens the strait and the US starts to end the naval blockade on Iran.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
good thread
FUB
Trusted Member
That’s what they’re saying. The buried lead is loan or credit so they don’t look like they were absolutely castrated.
The so called loans are forgiven.
Facts are the following:
1- The SOH remains closed, no matter how much hyperbolic statements are pedaled around on social media
2-every round of escalation or temporary fire from both side sides has ended in Iran destroying far greater resources that damages absorbed . The SOH is still closed
3- Iran still is exporting oil.
4– The US does not have enough troops for a land invasion no matter how many beautiful stories we hear about special forces and 82nd airborne and blah blah blah, and commandos this and commandos that.
Iran has the upper hand after fighting two nuclear armed states along with at least seven other countries .
Now the IRGC is just going to roll over ? If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you for a great price.
These despots will pay and they will pay a great amount of cash and resources.
So sorry Hasbara desk . Shabbat Shalom.
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ShapurII
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Nonsense. Iran started 20% enrichment in 2008. There is little difference between 20% and 60% in terms of enrichment capacity required.
Iranian nuclear program has had zero purpose for anything other than a nuclear weapons program. Iran never had a meaningful civilian nuclear program.
It's frustrating when people do not understand nuclear technology.
Trump has not bent over. Iran is bending over. The Strait of Hormuz became ineffective as soon as Iran accepted the premature ceasefire. Iran failed to raise oil prices to even the US-Iraq war time.
I thought you said HEU was not the issue and our geopolitical threat was the issue. Pick your bullshit please.
Iran has been checkmated, not Trump. Trump is imposing his terms on Iran and Iran is folding as always.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
ShapurII
Trusted Member
Basically, surrender of Iran as Trump wanted. "Starts to end" is open to interpretation, meaning it's not going to happen.
MS Sandhu
Registered Member
Problem is Iranian Offensive arm significantly under-performed than was actually expected.
TP -1 & 2 failed to build deterrence despite firing hundreds of ballistic missiles and literally exposed Iran for infiltrations and now here we're.
If Iran was successful in building the deterrence in initial counters, Trump wouldn't have dared to launch a lengthy compaign.
I think the situation in the gulf is good for iran currently , let me remind you that Saudia is to host 2034 WC and working hard to establish facilities for this occasion (they would accept any peace agreement) not to mention the tension between Saudia and UAE ( Since UAE supported southern yemen rebel group with the lead of alzuwbidi which saudia bombed his army and equipments).
PK781
Trusted Member
yup, we don't see it lasting much......hence its just a pause, actually every conflict will just have temp pauses.
The world will be living on the edge, as israel wants to expand its geography at the expense of the islamic countries and would even trigger WW3 for their nefarious designs
BananaRepublic
Trusted Member
This is another ceasefire. You will have a few more of them until Trump is out of power.
Trump and Israel’s objective was to turn Iran into a failed state and force Iran to give up its missile and drone caiability.
USA has lost the war because neither of those objectives have been met.
In addition, Iran now has established supremacy over the GCC poodles.
HEU is just a ruse. Because Iran had already conceded on it last year but Trump refused to take yes for an answer.
He has now bent over and dropped the demand for missiles and regime change.
And has accepted the original deal - which included HEU!!!
'Bringing in Oman etc.' has to be done, because America can't sell full open Iranian control as anything other than a full capitulation of the US and it's hegemonic status. Think about it, would Oman ever want to even charge a fee or close Hormuz? Impossible. This is Iran doing it, but on paper 1-2 small Arab countries have 'a say'. Otherwise it's open full capitulation of the US. Think of the consequences of that in Asia. Imagine being Taiwan, South Korea or Japan, thinking this capitulated US is going to do anything against China. It's ridiculous. At least that's how I see it. When Iran, with simple drones, small boats and threats/statements can close Hormuz, why would they 'give it away' for nothing? It makes no sense.
If anything, this war has proven that Irans 'mullah leadership' is probably one of the best in the world and most adaptable. How quickly they adapted after june 2025 is amazing.
BananaRepublic
Trusted Member
I think PDF Iranians keep forgetting the reason for this war!
It wasn’t about HEU! Because Iran had already conceded on it last year.
This war was about regime change and missile and drone capability.
Iran has not surrendered on any of them.
Hence Iran has triumphed and USA Has failed.
030292
Registered Member
This war has been coming for the past 30 odd years, just needed someone like trump in the white house to initiate it, its good that they got it over with and now the nation can concentrate on developement, if there ever was a military solution to this, trump and natanyahu would have exploited it on the day they found out about that since feb 28, the fact that iran fought two super powers and came out relatively unscathed is a testament to their offensive and defensive capabilities.
How many countries in the world do you think can resist against a combined offensive of the two most technologically advanced super powers? The fact that iran, a nation that has been sanctioned for the past 47 years and still not only defend but attack back is an objective undeniable evidence of their power, and in my opinion thats a detterence enough to make sure that no other nation tries such a foolish adventure against iran in the future.
MS Sandhu
Registered Member
Only Non-iranians with no shit in fight are actually happy about ending with Iranian Victory and they are convincing Iranians that "look ! you have absolutely smacked Trump into submission"
