Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[VCheng]

The details haven't been fully released yet.

We all will know soon enough. There is good hope.

 

[SecularNationalist]

fat lady is singing

Well I am getting a feeling that finally US has decided to ditch isreal and made a deal humiliating deal. Like US has said go **** yourself isreal this war is costing us too much. Now the thing is if isreal is attacked by Iran in the coming days would US will be dragged again or not?

 

[ShapurII]

Now the thing is if isreal is attacked by Iran in the coming days would US will be dragged again or not?

lol Don't even think about it.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Well I am getting a feeling that finally US has decided to ditch isreal and made a deal humiliating deal. Like US has said go **** yourself isreal this war is costing us too much. Now the thing is if isreal is attacked by Iran in the coming days would US will be dragged again or not?

Links all over the web; Daddy is very annoyed with Bibi.

 

[BananaRepublic]

fat lady is singing

@lightning f57 Is this lady fat enough for, ya?

 

[Persian Gulf]

The agreement or whatever it's called has been signed. Official reports in Iranian media.
The details haven't been fully released yet.

On reflection, I see the benefits in not falling into Israel's trap. The cost of an attack would have been heavy with limited utility, we cannot really enforce our redline through missiles, but maybe we can through this ceasefire. If not, we can say we tried...

In any case, strategic failure for Trump/the US, look how the bastard spoke at the start of the war:

 

[BananaRepublic]

Links all over the web; Daddy is very annoyed with Bibi.

Puff daddy is either acting or cannot follow through

 

[mangekyo]

Trump says no toll, but Iran has previously said there will never be a toll, only an environmental fee.

 

[RocketLaw]

BREAKING: Following Israel's attack on Lebanon this morning, Iran had canceled negotiations and prepared to attack Israel, per Fars News.

However, after "last-minute concessions" offered by President Trump, Iran was "persuaded to forgo the attack."

These concessions reportedly include:

1. The preservation of Lebanon’s territorial integrity

2. Israel’s withdrawal from the Lebanese border.

3. "The immediate lifting of the siege"

Iran is expected to release an official statement on the peace deal shortly.

 

[ShapurII]

On reflection, I see the benefits in not falling into Israel's trap. The cost of an attack would have been heavy with limited utility, we cannot really enforce our redline through missiles, but maybe we can through this ceasefire. If not, we can say we tried...

In any case, strategic failure for Trump/the US, look how the bastard spoke at the start of the war:

I think it all depends on what will happen from hereafter.

I am sort of optimistic. At least our people can get some temporary relief from being under crushing economic conditions. Even if it lasts 3 months, it's better than nothing.

And you are right. Our missiles are not capable of enforcing our red lines in Israel. We need to work on alternative solutions instead of relying on missiles and militias. There's a good chance that Hezbollah will not survive in a year or two.

 

[Watandar]

Here's hoping gas prices go down. I don't like paying $100 worth of gas a week.

I really should just bite the bullet and buy an EV though.

The EV owners have been laughing at us throughout this war.

 

[Al-Zakir]

Here's hoping gas prices go down. I don't like paying $100 worth of gas a week.

I really should just bite the bullet and buy an EV though.

I'm anti EV too. They look like toy car for some reason.

Links all over the web; Daddy is very annoyed with Bibi.

Good for America. Hell with Iarahell. Time to focus in our dying cities and rebuild. We can do it but needs to prorotize.

 

[RocketLaw]

4 minutes ago

 

[FuturePAF]

even if its signed it meaningless with israel around

Sanctions relief is not meaningless, it’s one of the greatest concessions Iran could get out of this while conflict. Since WW2, the use of sanctions have been the key tool to slowly kill off adversarial regimes.

If Iran is able to earn, without restriction, they can execute on their $400 billion oil/gas development plan with China, and can then spend on whatever they deem they need.

Either way, the world, by and large hopes the news is true.

And for Pakistan’s sake, I hope this is not just an altruistic move, but one where Pakistan has made side agreements with Iran for the IPI pipeline to resume, at Iran’s expense, so Pakistan doesn’t face any sanctions once Trump leaves office, and Pakistan can buy discounted oil and gas.

For being potentially decisive in ending the war, I also hope Pakistan has gotten commitments to a modernization of a sizable portion of the Pakistan military to help protect the GCC, AND to gain back the support of local populations, via a military modernization and new force posture, as most of the GCC pivots (basically minus UAE) to trying to resolve the Palestinian issue, and not let Iran appear to have been the deciding factor.

Also, considering the impact on Iranians in the UAE, I hope Pakistan markets Gwadar as the international port Iranians can invest in, just outside Iran, to sustain economic activity, when not if, some threat of sanctions are sought to be put back upon them.

This war has to be the moment Pakistan markets itself, and especially Gwadar as the “Venice of the East” on the Silk Road, a true destination for trade and defense for all. Where cargo ships from the GCC AND Iran can be built and fly the flag of Pakistan and be protected by a robust and sizable Pakistan navy, as one of the major “net security providers” in the Arabian Sea if not the whole Indian Ocean.

This is also Pakistan’s moment, this is also Gwadar’s potential moment.

 

[RocketLaw]

Oil price down - oops