Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[BananaRepublic]

Israel is that spoiled son that even the father (USA) is no longer able to control. This deal looks like its the biggest accomplishment of entire Donald Trumps life.

Israel is a street urchin adopted by USA. Which it thought could be trained into a profitable vagabond.

But the vagabond instead started thieving off the USA.

 

[ParthianLord]

 

[BananaRepublic]

To be fair, Trump did promise unconditional surrender. We just didn’t know he meant the USA’s surrender.

If “regime change” is America’s objective - flooding Iran with dollars - is the cheapest and more reliable way of doing it.

But US warmongers won’t like letting go of the loot.

 

[unconventional]

I've been hearing about the collapse of the US since the 1990s.

Iranians were threatening to wipe out Israel and the US since the 1980s but in 2026, they're just glad they themselves haven't been wiped out instead.

"We have survived. We have survived. We won."

Please remind me, was it Trump or Iran that said 39 times before over the last few months that a deal had been agreed upon, only to be forced to backtrack?

And can you tell me what war goals the US/Israel achieved?

Iranians have never threatened to wipe off the US or Israel, only the Zionist apartheid nature of the Israeli state.

Yes they haven’t achieved that in 2026. It is difficult to do so, when all the Arab nations, the entire Western bloc and the US acts to protect Israel from a sanctioned Iran.

 

[Nawnaw1]

Please remind me, was it Trump or Iran that said 39 times before over the last few months that a deal had been agreed upon, only to be forced to backtrack?

And can you tell me what war goals the US/Israel achieved?

Iranians have never threatened to wipe off the US or Israel, only the Zionist apartheid nature of the Israeli state.

Yes they haven’t achieved that in 2026. It is difficult to do so, when all the Arab nations, the entire Western bloc and the US acts to protect Israel from a sanctioned Iran.

Many on this forum are utterly jealous of Iran. It is what it is.

 

[Meengla]

Many people here dont understand that time goes by. Compare USA of 2003 (Iraq AND Afghanistan war at the same time, 200k soldiers occupying different lands) and now? Can't even take a small island, can't even muster 20k troops. Imagine now how the US will be in 2046?
There is no comeback, there is no 'try again'. There is no 'in the future we'll weaken them and do it again'. It's done. The small countries are getting more powerful vis a vis the bigger countries that used to be powerful. Is Turkey of 1960 the same as today? India of 2046 the same as today or as in 1990?
Times change, the colonial or former colonial powers are nowhere in the future. The old civilizations are rising again. At best they can try to pit us against each other. But I don't see that happening at a scale big enough anymore.

Great post!
And I don't understand why so many here kept coming up with strange theories like the April ceasefire was to replenish the American/Israeli weaponry and some other theories like the negotiations were a ruse to attack Iran unprepared. Even on the 28th Feb. attack, Iran was not caught by surprise except for not anticipating the timing of the attack to kill the leadership, otherwise Iran responded within an hour by targeting an American base and killing several there.
There is no coming back to launch another attack on Iran. And forget the ground invasion. Even carpet bombing will carry risks as Iran has shown enough air defense systems. There is no collapse of the Iranian economy due to the Strait's Blockade by the Americans.

 

[VCheng]

Look where the Uk navy was and where it is now. You don't have the braincells to compute what the loss or decline of the dollar will mean to US budgets and it's armed forces? ON TOP of their irreversible technological and Industrial decline? Go, go imagine the US being even STRONGER 20 years from now.

Those with functioning brain cells know to wait for Friday first, before trying to predict much longer into the future.

Let us see the MoU signed first, and read what is actually in it, shall we?

 

[Meengla]

From browsing various countries media, not much new except the worries about Israel somehow manages to spoil the Deal on Friday and a consensus that Iran has gained upper hand; Mark Levin's Tweet above are his cries about the $300 billion potentially given to Iran.
Jeremy Scahill is of the view that Iran could be given billions through some Arab countries. He is also saying that Israelis tried to sabotage the agreement (Sat/Sun?) by attacking Beirut and Iran was preparing a missile response but frantic last minute diplomacy, where Iran gained some more concessions from Trump, stopped the Iranian attack.
Short video.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Some interesting analysis on the Deal from Jeremy Sachill if you have the time(Meengla beat me to it on the other video so I have deleted from my post!).

 

[PakAl]

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Hilarious. But hear to what he actually says. The GCC or should I say 'PGCC' will fund it. You understand now how big their loss is?

Many people here dont understand that time goes by. Compare USA of 2003 (Iraq AND Afghanistan war at the same time, 200k soldiers occupying different lands) and now? Can't even take a small island, can't even muster 20k troops. Imagine now how the US will be in 2046?

There is no comeback, there is no 'try again'. There is no 'in the future we'll weaken them and do it again'. It's done. The small countries are getting more powerful vis a vis the bigger countries that used to be powerful. Is Turkey of 1960 the same as today? India of 2046 the same as today or as in 1990?

Times change, the colonial or former colonial powers are nowhere in the future. The old civilizations are rising again. At best they can try to pit us against each other. But I don't see that happening at a scale big enough anymore.

In what world do you live?

This is 2026. Not 1945. If the US wanted to take Kharg, it would not have needed 20K troops. If you've not noticed, the numbers of troops used in any conflict involving the US has steadily declined due in part to the advances in technology.

I'm not saying or even suggesting boots on the ground are not needed eventually. However, the facts remain what they are. There are rumors even the Chinese are looking to reduce their forces by 300K.

 

[tsunset]

And what about the reconstruction of IRIAF and IRIN?

They could secure deals to get F-16 and F-15 jets to rebuild the airforce

 

[PakAl]

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

And what about the reconstruction of IRIAF and IRIN?

They could secure deals to get F-16 and F-15 jets to rebuild the airforce

We would likely deliver faster than the Russians are with the SU-35.

 

[PakAl]