Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ParthianLord]

Trump defends Iran´s Ballistic Missile Program

 

[lightning f57]

Ironically it seems to me the war may end up leading to positive consequences for Iran with nuclear deal resolved, end of sanctions and opening up of Irans economy hopfully more with its neighbours.

I said just as trump came into power Iran shoulder massage his ego and flatter him. There is an opportunity right now to do that, Iranians can massage his ego, pull him further away from Yahu, offer to want to invest in the US and make positive signals to limit trumps own internal tension with the crying zionists.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Interview with the heroes that bombed US base in Kuwait with F-5s in near suicide mission

Dubious interview.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Basically, you have to get rid of the weapons-grade material but the method is up to you.

Am I too critical or isn't this basically a form of surrender?

Surrender for the USA to Iran?

Prior to Trump ripping up the JCPOA deal, Iran was refining to 3% and it seems that they can go back to that. The purpose of refining to a higher level was to try and force the USA back to the JCPOA deal.

 

[Aryan_B]

Just heard a Aljazeera journalist describe reactions to the deal in Israel leading to a collective meltdown. Now i feel this MOU could be could for Iran

 

[Pakistan First]

LOL Look at Trump. Is he really serious to end the war ? The MoU contains a term for "no threats" but Trump is back again threatening for war.

Check this video, he is saying he will start dropping bombs, smacking right over their heads again If Iranians don't behave. Also he called Obama as "Stupid son of a bitch" for giving Iran 1.7 billion dollars. And look at Sisi face through out Trump's rant LMAO!

 

[Ali_Baba]

Just heard a Aljazeera journalist describe reactions to the deal in Israel leading to a collective meltdown. Now i feel this MOU could be could for Iran

If all sanctions get removed, then it is in itself a big strategic defeat for Israel, as Iran will be unrestricted in its economic growth and can become so much more powerful.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

 

[Watandar]

Many others are also declaring victory, many even here in this thread, believe it or not.

Even before the final agreement has happened.

All are equal fools IMO.

 

[krash]

As long as the US doesn't renege, Iran has done it.


7 — The United States of America undertakes to terminate all types of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the United Nations Security Council resolutions, IAEA Board of Governors resolutions, and all unilateral US sanctions, primary and secondary, in an agreed upon schedule as part of the final deal. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America acknowledge the critical importance of the sanctions termination issue above mentioned, and expressed their intentions to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.

10 — The United States of America undertakes that immediately upon the signing of this MOU and until the termination of sanctions, US Department of Treasury will issue waivers for the export of Iranian crude oil, petroleum products and derivatives, and all associated services, including banking transactions, insurances, transportation, etc.

11 — The United States of America undertakes to make fully available for use the frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran upon the implementation of this MOU. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will mutually agree on the procedures related to the release of these funds during negotiations. Such funds, whether retained in the original account or transferred, shall be made fully usable for payment to any ultimate beneficiary designated by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America undertakes to issue all necessary licenses and authorizations accordingly.

 

[Watandar]

 

[VCheng]

So when was this payment made and where did these funds come from? Please do tell us.

 

[VCheng]

As long as the US doesn't renege, Iran has done it.

Please do elaborate on what this "it" is that Iran has done. Thanks.

 

[Eşbah]

Surrender for the USA to Iran?

Prior to Trump ripping up the JCPOA deal, Iran was refining to 3% and it seems that they can go back to that. The purpose of refining to a higher level was to try and force the USA back to the JCPOA deal.

A covert surrender of IRI. Turns out that all of Vance' statements were correct. Iran is giving up her highly enriched uranium and every step of the Iranian nuclear program is getting under the supervision of IAEA.

The situation in Israel has politically imploded because they were unable to achieve all their objectives from this conflict [no missiles, civil war, no nuclear, more sanctions]. It is important that we do not allow our feelings to cloud our judgment. I do not perceive this as a victory for Iran, even if the sanctions were to be lifted, which I believe is unlikely, but that is merely my perspective. Many overlook the upcoming two months of negotiations. If this MoU represents the least that both parties have agreed to, then what lies ahead will likely impose even greater restrictions on Iran's nuclear program.

In my opinion, the United States has emerged as the winner. Iran will be permitted to continue its ballistic program along with some degree of sanctions relief, but it will essentially abandon its nuclear program.

What are you guys celebrating here? The Iranians lost the war if this is the outcome.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm open to change my opinion.

 

[krash]

Please do elaborate on what this "it" is that Iran has done. Thanks.

Surely you can see the immensity of the removal of all sanctions.

A covert surrender of IRI. Turns out that all of Vance' statements were correct. Iran is giving up her highly enriched uranium and every step of the Iranian nuclear program is getting under the supervision of IAEA.

The situation in Israel has politically imploded because they were unable to achieve all their objectives from this conflict [no missiles, civil war, no nuclear, more sanctions]. It is important that we do not allow our feelings to cloud our judgment. I do not perceive this as a victory for Iran, even if the sanctions were to be lifted, which I believe is unlikely, but that is merely my perspective. Many overlook the upcoming two months of negotiations. If this MoU represents the least that both parties have agreed to, then what lies ahead will likely impose even greater restrictions on Iran's nuclear program.

In my opinion, the United States has emerged as the winner. Iran will be permitted to continue its ballistic program along with some degree of sanctions relief, but it will essentially abandon its nuclear program.

What are you guys celebrating here? The Iranians lost the war if this is the outcome.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm open to change my opinion.

You are wrong. The Iranians had no plans to build the bomb as far back as Obama. Now they will have no sanctions that were there since 1979, if this goes through. If it's not a win then it's a pretty sweet defeat, at least.