Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[unconventional]

environment fee, new name to toll. 300 billion through UAE and Qatar. This is release of Iranian oil money in American and western financial institutions.

Iran Says Strait of Hormuz Won’t Have ‘Tolls’ but It Will Have ‘Fees’​

It will be more like “administrative fees” than tolls, the ships/tankers will need directions from the Iranians to navigate the strait safely, after all the mines the Iranians laid during the closure of the strait.

 

[Persian Gulf]

I will quote Ghalibaf verbatim:



Basically, Iran is not going to get any cash, but we will be able to open new credit lines in foreign banks to import goods. So, nothing has changed for us. This isn't good for Iran. Ghalibaf said we would receive $12 billion in cash after signing the deal. This is why USDT is not going down.

Tell me what the relevant MOU paragraph says

 

[ShapurII]

Tell me what the relevant MOU paragraph says

11 — The United States of America undertakes to make fully available for use the frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran upon the implementation of this MOU. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will mutually agree on the procedures related to the release of these funds during negotiations. Such funds, whether retained in the original account or transferred, shall be made fully usable for payment to any ultimate beneficiary designated by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America undertakes to issue all necessary licenses and authorizations accordingly.

And? No cash to Iran. Do you have another interpretation?

 

[TAC]

Sir, it depends on how many premature celebrations are declared. The number is entirely proportional, one may safely assume.

No longer ‘premature’, it actually never was because for anyone not clouded by desperate need to cope the writing was already on the wall. Regardless you can now go read details of the official MOU which leaves no doubt about the worldwide humiliation and defeat self inflicted on the US by the stupidity of the Orange idiot. MAGA indeed lol.
Idiots biggest achievements in this MOU, Iran will ‘never’ have nuclear weapons? Well they already committed to that under international supervision of its nuclear sites under the Obama accord which this idiot tore up.
His only other big ‘win’? Getting the Hormuz open - but it was already open before his nonsense war. He’s now even given Iran licence to agree / implement a mechanism for controlling it moving forward which was never there before.
He will portray this stupidity as epic ‘wins’ and a significant percentage of low IQ Americans will swallow this BS.
Enjoy!!

 

[Persian Gulf]

11 — The United States of America undertakes to make fully available for use the frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran upon the implementation of this MOU. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will mutually agree on the procedures related to the release of these funds during negotiations. Such funds, whether retained in the original account or transferred, shall be made fully usable for payment to any ultimate beneficiary designated by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America undertakes to issue all necessary licenses and authorizations accordingly.

And? No cash to Iran. Do you have another interpretation?

Not this one

I was talking about oil exports

 

[ShapurII]

Not this one

I was talking about oil exports

Then write what you are referring to. That was my best guess.

 

[Flotilla]

give sources please.

the hannibal directive was made to prevent soldiers to be taken. Soldiers, not civilians.

What do you think of the pic and films taken by Hamas itself about these 1200 ?

I have seen hundreds of videos of Hamás and none of them reaches even 500 casualties. But reputed media said they used this Directive. Even from Israelí cabinet was confirmation.

Stop spreading lies.

Israel accused of killing its own civilians under the 'Hannibal Directive' to avoid them being taken hostage

The controversial "Hannibal Directive", which Israel says isn't named for the famous Carthaginian general who took poison rather than be captured by the Romans, was reportedly enacted after the October 7 Hamas attack, with revelations detailing attacks by IDF tanks and helicopters on homes and...

www.abc.net.au

 

[Flotilla]

Yes, now Trump is even starting to soften the public to accept Iranian enrichment:



He accepts Iranian missiles, access to frozen funds, reconstruction funds, dilution of highly enriched uranium inside Iran, and enrichment. Now a deal is very possible

@mangekyo, did you read It?. You should be moderately optimistic.

 

[Meengla]

Sometimes threat of war/violence is worse than the event itself - as Israel just found out. Had they not bothered attacking, Iran would have remained under severe sanctions, status quo would have continued, just like the last 50 odd years. But now that Iran has faced the worse and has come out of it....the country is only heading in one direction: up!

This was Netanyahu's biggest and hopefully last blunder. And almost certainly going to pay a price in upcoming elections and then a possible jail term. But he deserves far worse than those.

 

[Lulldapull]

If the sanctions are waved, Pakistan should try to build Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline within 2 months. The Iranian part was built years ago and already on the border of Pakistan so we just need to connect it with Pakistani pipeline near Gwadar.

If we don't secure our energy portfolio from all this Irani drama, then our establishment should just commit suicide.

I'd be damned if Pakistan does not get its energy needs secured in all of this mayhem.

 

[IceCold]

Yes, now Trump is even starting to soften the public to accept Iranian enrichment:



He accepts Iranian missiles, access to frozen funds, reconstruction funds, dilution of highly enriched uranium inside Iran, and enrichment. Now a deal is very possible

Until the next president that is. What's stopping the next president to simply refuse this deal like Trump did with Obama and we are back to square 1.
I just hope Iran strengthens it's capabilities including air defense and increases its missile ranges to include countries like the UK who were allowing US flights and Diego Garcia. Short of hitting the US mainland because that would for sure invite a nuclear retaliation, everything else should be within range.

 

[reader2026]

This is a huge W for Iran.

 

[Nuffle]

This was Netanyahu's biggest and hopefully last blunder. And almost certainly going to pay a price in upcoming elections and then a possible jail term. But he deserves far worse than those.

I highly doubt he'll be arrested. He'll flee and seek asylum in the US before sentencing.

 

[Ali_Baba]

This was Netanyahu's biggest and hopefully last blunder. And almost certainly going to pay a price in upcoming elections and then a possible jail term. But he deserves far worse than those.

And lets not forget India's blundering marriage to Israel, days before they attacked Iran. That was Modi's folly ( alongside Sindoor ) that was also connected to Netanyahu's folly and I think all part of the same gameplan.

 

[Meengla]

Until the next president that is. What's stopping the next president to simply refuse this deal like Trump did with Obama and we are back to square 1.
I just hope Iran strengthens it's capabilities including air defense and increases its missile ranges to include countries like the UK who were allowing US flights and Diego Garcia. Short of hitting the US mainland because that would for sure invite a nuclear retaliation, everything else should be within range.

There is not going to be a 'next time' nor there will be a combination of leaders like Netanyahu and Trump occupying their respective offices at the same time. This was Netanyahu's best and final chance to neutralize Iran as a threat and he has failed on that.

BTW, I notice a tendency in several here to be too stuck in the past as if the recent major changes don't matter. Such stagnant way to think! So twice the American-Israel combo attacked in last 18 months but no factoring in of the Iranian strategic gains in the new equation? Some here are perennial doomers and gloomers!