Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[TAC]

LOL. Let the events happen first. Then we will see who has the last word.

They already happened but can’t help you if you’ve got your fingers in your ears, eyes closed tight and head deep in the sand. If you don’t look it’s not true right?

 

[Watandar]

Loving the show ….

Vance is spitting fire ….

I bet Israel never saw this coming .
It’s about time people stand up and tell Israel to **** off …. Far too long our tax money is spent in protecting these genocide lovers …

Israel has been through this before when George HW Bush and James Baker wanted to use their political capital from the 1991 Gulf war to resolve the Israel-Palestine issue, so they began pressuring Israel to sit down with the Palestinians and hammer out some accord. Israelis used their insiders in the Legislature and Executive to undermine Bush/Baker and then AIPAC campaigned against Bush in the 1992 general election.

Mr Vance is playing to the gallery here as he wants to protect his 2028 bid from this disastrous war but is vulnerable to AIPAC as well. It's a balancing act.

 

[TAC]

You are celebrating way too early.

I’m not celebrating, just reflecting reality and facts of what has happened as are all independent analysts that I can find.

 

[Watandar]

Vance is really taking it to the Israelis lol. His message to Netanyahu is "SHUT UP ABOUT THE IRAN DEAL".

 

[ShapurII]

I’m not celebrating, just reflecting reality and facts of what has happened as are all independent analysts that I can find.

Nothing is certain yet. This memorandum of understanding is basically a bunch of promises for something that might never happen in the future. That's why it's too early to celebrate.

 

[TAC]

Nothing is certain yet. This memorandum of understanding is basically a bunch of promises for something that might never happen in the future. That's why it's too early to celebrate.

There are a lot of ‘certains’ right now if you want to see them.
It’s not like I’m the only one saying it. Go look at what all independent media outlets and analysts are saying.

 

[Watandar]

Nothing is certain yet. This memorandum of understanding is basically a bunch of promises for something that might never happen in the future. That's why it's too early to celebrate.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Vance is really taking it to the Israelis lol. His message to Netanyahu is "SHUT UP ABOUT THE IRAN DEAL".

What's he not saying outright is "we're in this boat because of you".

 

[ShapurII]

There are a lot of ‘certains’ right now if you want to see them.
It’s not like I’m the only one saying it. Go look at what all independent media outlets and analysts are saying.

And it doesn't seem possible that the mainstream media that are controlled by the US are actually peddling this for you to let your guard down like what happened in last year's June?

Now we are using Wikipedia for determining the result of ongoing wars?

By the way, that edit didn't last long:

 

[VCheng]

Even if It just some warships or fighters, the retreat of any conventional force It is a NET INCOME compared by JCPOA.

US made Great Obama.

We do not know as of yet, Sir. We simply do not.

But you are right, IF it happens, it will be a "net income".

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

And it doesn't seem possible that the mainstream media that are controlled by the US are actually peddling this for you to let your guard down like what happened in last year's June?


Now we are using Wikipedia for determining the result of ongoing wars?

It complements the Twitter posts.

 

[VCheng]

No VC "wait and see" heng!

Not 60... one who who keeps harping needs to be spoon fed also... is it because you can't see... perhaps you can wait.

It is within 30 days...

Please let me add some color to you Golden "Showers" Wisdom:

I have already said that there is an immediate cessation of hostilities, opening of the SoH (free for 60 days), and waivers until the sanctions themselves are removed in the final agreement.

The real issues will take 60 days, or more, to finalize.

 

[Immortals]

There needs to be a serious re-evaluation in Tehran about their ties with the Houthis.

They did NOT show up in this war.

• Hezbollah showed up
• Iraqi militias showed up
• Even Syrian rogue elements showed up I believe behind the scenes helping with logistics.

Houthis? Fired a few missiles and drones.

So either their armament is critically low and they need a full Iranian rebuild à la Hezbollah post 2006 and 2024. Or they are not reliable allies and should be downgraded and more weapons funneled to other groups.

 

[VCheng]

point I’m making is even at best these ‘mechanisms’ achieve nothing more than what you already had

The point you are claiming is simply premature - we do not know the details of these mechanisms yet, so it is impossible to say whether they achieve nothing or much.

Unless you can see the future. If you can, please go right ahead.

 

[VCheng]

Imagine asking your stockbroker if you should go long or short on oil....and the dude just smiles wryly and says "time will tell".

Imagine having the common sense to know the difference between investing in the commodities markets and trying to predict complex geopolitical events that are still in the future.