Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

What makes you think Iran even "needs" this $300 billion?

They've smashed and grabbed something extra during negotiations, from a position of strength. Trump was sick to death of the war and sick to death of Israeli parasitic behaviour. Iran took advantage.

I think the $300 billion will be useful (if it materialises) but the lifting of sanctions and the free trade of oil are the game changer for Iran.
Yaar its a total rout. No shit......

Absolutely on da maany comment.

Iranis have totally won and the US got no stomach to keep on going.

Total US military defeat!

$300 billion Iran will collect in inflated energy prices/ tolls in no time.
 
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Are you Indian?
Bro I'm a fellow Pakistani, born and bred. And let me tell you: the Chinese are no friends of anyone. Each and every one of their 'ally' has suffered and they barely issue a statement. Infact it's almost like they feed one country at a time to the hyenas (western world). I don't know why my fellow Pakistanis (especially those residing in Pak) fail to see that in international politics, there are no friends and China most certainly will NOT show up if sh*t hits the fan.
 
All jokes and shit posting aside, the humiliation ritual that Trump is going through now will eventually force him to do something even stupider than the Ramadhan war to appear powerful. He's tolerating all this humiliation because he has a bigger plan.

So, expect the next round of war to be even more merciless and destructive.

If anything, that's the Israeli plan

Humiliate trump back into action

If Iran or the middle east wants to counter this, then we need to give the orange idiot a WIN

The Zionists and their lackeys will be active over the next few days and weeks trying to portray Trump as weak and defeated,

Now economic reality may keep him constrained, but to counter Israel we need to push the narrative that Israel is the problem
Push the blame of defeat on Israeli extremism
And try to sooth Trumps ego and appeal to his narcissistic side
 


He mentioned Charlie Kirk. The gloves are off.

Yes, Charlie was his bud and both belong to same school of thought. This coming young generation of leaders are much concern about Israeli interference in US politics and foreign policy. JD more pizzed after Israeli assassinate Charlie.
 
Saudi and GCC should all openly thank Pakistan, for saving them a war they help start.
And I never understood why the Saudis and other Arab countries go against Tehran so much. It is clear that israel and the US are destroying the region.
Arab countries are so against Tehran, because Iranians are Shia.

Not trying to be sectarian here.
 
Chinese are just so cringe. Nonsense analysts online like that joker Jiang.

They quit Pakistan too (cpec) and fled under US pressure (threats/ terrorism).

Work hand in hand with the US deep state and peddle their deplorable military junk to us in Pakistan.

Not happy with Chinese behavior on the international level.
Lol
Some random lulpul not happy with China taking care of her interests .
 
Bro I'm a fellow Pakistani, born and bred. And let me tell you: the Chinese are no friends of anyone. Each and every one of their 'ally' has suffered and they barely issue a statement. Infact it's almost like they feed one country at a time to the hyenas (western world). I don't know why my fellow Pakistanis (especially those residing in Pak) fail to see that in international politics, there are no friends and China most certainly will NOT show up if sh*t hits the fan.
If a nation of 250 Million people can't protect herself on her own why the f#k should anyone give a flying shit to that nation.

Iran, nation of 90 million people with all the natural resources one can dream of, still crying for chinese help is an utter disgrace.
 
Lol
Some random lulpul not happy with China taking care of her interests .
And you not happy being a colluddzz migrant in sawdi Judea whilst knowing de facts no?

Irans defeated da US, which is your love daddy (Abbu-G/ Praaann/ Pyo )......:p

Now go watch Top Gunn or Rambo no?

Gareebaan di laattry no?
 
1. Focus on your country
2. The only country currently preventing a China Iran Pakistan alliance is Pakistan.

Btw when you say "Iran should stop threatening IS and Israel with its words" does international law allow attacks in response to nations threatening words? Also Trump had threatened Iran and said mean words to Iran, so why are you not telling US to toke down that negative rhetoric towards Iran? Stop your double standards!! (Cuz sometimes,honestly, you have some posts that could be A grade..but at some point in your post, you make bad and naive irrelevant points ,which make your posts more like C grade- respectfully)
I am sure i made some great points, Iran previously had aggressive foreign policy, they burnt Usa flags in the parliament, chanted death to American slogans, the western powers and Israel uses these against Iran and lobbys allies for sanctions, all i am calling for is a professional diplomacy type of policy. Look at China, they are quiet but everyone knows they will defend themselves, they don't scream death to America or anyone but are slowly building themselves up, if they chant slogans against the west or burn flags then the western world will get together and place sanctions. Ofcourse China right now is on a different level than pre 2000s China. Israel was bombing Iran but claimed we are saving Iranians. This is how western world plays the game. Already i have seen video of Iranian politician calling to improve Iran economy and make life better for its citizens. I think we will see a new Iran if sanctions are removed, war stops.

The claim is absolutely false, Pakistan does not oppose Iran Pakistan China alliance, the issue is Iran is under western led sanctions, Israel Usa make it out look like iran is extremist country, plus making alliance with Iran will bring China and Pakistan in to this enemity with the Usa.

Anyways this is just my opinion, if Pakistan China Iran international policies align they can build up a strong alliance, Iran can build a great airforce and Navy.

Regarding Usa Israel, they rule the world, bully and kill for power, we all know this. The question is how Iran can effectively deal with this, and also become a regional power, you can either be direct and fight a war or slowly build yourself up, with economy, alliance, military, defence and one day enemies will fear you and will never dare to fire 16000 bombs at you, kill your supreme leader, all big military leadership.

Lastly i didnt mean to attack Iran, not sure why some Iranian members become too defensive.
 
I really hope we utilize this newly found importance and good relations to good use, not just boosting military ties with regional partners but also economic benefits in areas like Sindh and Baluchistan. KSA has been teasing us with investments and Oil refineries its about time we see some, and I really hope that because of the sanctions removing from Iran we can finish the Iran-Pak Gas pipeline, and also increase the capacity at Gwadar and Karachi ports.
 
Chinese are just so cringe. Nonsense analysts online like that joker Jiang.

They quit Pakistan too (cpec) and fled under US pressure (threats/ terrorism).

Work hand in hand with the US deep state and peddle their deplorable military junk to us in Pakistan.

Not happy with Chinese behavior on the international level.
Yeah, you can go kiss as hard as you want on the Japs of your country now, but China will absolutely crush it with no mercy this time with all the sanctions in place, no matter how unhappy you are. No, China is in no way begging you to buy Chinese junks, so buzz off.
 
I remember the China fans coming in and saying how Chinese factories were going to be operating 24/7.

Then when nothing happened they fell back to their “China doesn’t involve itself in such conflicts and leaves it up to companies to supply dual use technologies”.

The reality is Xi Xi is afraid of direct conflict with the West. Same way that Putin is afraid and was afraid even with Ukraine basically entering NATO.

Now today many Russians curse Putin and his weakness. Will we see such actions in China in the future once U.S. begins seriously using the Taiwan card?
I think it will take a few years of hotter safer conventional wars before MAD opponents face off. I think China will make a play for Taiwan BUT when it's less global-economically disruptive for its own export business markets

for context, in the grand scheme of things I believe are ENTERING another phase per the 250 year cycles of empires - see https://substack.com/@raydalio/note/c-244442767
 

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