Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Nothing you've said here contradicts what I said about him. He's a sly and opportunistic weasel, as many "Islamist messiahs" are. He is no different in his opportunism to the Kurds or the Pahlavists.

Such people don't build empires for the benefit of their subjects but instead fleece everyone they can for their own personal gain.

I guess what I’m saying is that I don’t think I’m looking to contradict your post.

But I am trying to provide a more nuanced position of who he is.

I’m glad he is an opportunist, because it is better than having an opportunist at the helm than a hardcore sectarian ideologue.

It means you cannot trust him about anything, but you can most certainly bribe him to work with you.
 
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yea the "Iranian Super Drone" is described as this by US pilots

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Not first time US officials / Army claimed Iran has "Alien like" Drone technology

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here the CNN interview with the "Pilot"
 
On paper India should have played the role of mediator. Large importer of oil/LNG, biggest navy in the region by far, US strategic ally, and investor in Iran's Chahbar port. They f**ked it all up massively
1) Pissing off Trump after May 7th last year
2) Spying on the Qatari sub programme for Israel
3) Visiting Israel 2 days prior to attack and all the "Motherland" "Fatherland" BS
4) Siding so closely with UAE

Good post. And of all those points, #3 was a totally unnecessary diplomatic disaster!

And the Indian foreign policy disasters were happening even before this war when during the recent Israel-Gaza war, Indians refused to condemn Israel and in fact agreed to send thousands of Indian workers to Israel to replace the Palestinians. That was noticed by anti-war Western analysts and India started to be looked at closely. Look at what Jackson Hinkle started to say about India then.
Also the June 2025 war on Iran where India, again, didn't name Israel to condemn Israel; I am sure the Iranians had noticed that then.

It is a shame that in a 'democracy' like India, people like their FM Jaishankar keeps holding on to his job.
 
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In my industry, there is a rule:

“If it isn’t documented, it never happened”.

So I think if you review the MOU, it is clear that there is no such requirement for the Iranian side. But we should also view the MOU from the lens of a 60 day period.

During this time, I expect intense conversations on Iran’s nuclear program: allowing IAEA inspectors into Iran, limiting enrichment to strictly 3.67%, and diluting/destroying Iran’s HEU stockpile in Iran.

I think that is the price Iran will have to pay if it expects more sanctions relief and curtailing Israel’s actions in Lebanon.

I see the statement from Vance about IAEA inspectors in Iran as him trying to seek the upper hand in the 60 day talks, as it’s not a stipulated clause in the MOU.

I can understand the suspicion Iran would have of the IAEA inspectors, considering the role of Rossi passing information about the Iranian nuclear sites to the US, and the subsequent US/Israel wars against Iran.
 
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From what Iranian officials have said, the relationship is based purely on money and bribes. Basically, if Iranians pay up, Jolani's men will keep the borders open. In fact, one official has said that the situation might even be better now than in the past (which I think speaks to how much of a liability Assad had become by the end).

Even if It is like It, I am sure Jolani's have a positive experience right now with Hizbollah. They are the perfect shield for Syria. And I am sure he knows It. He is keeping more than busy israelis. They're receiving the bombs that his sunni Army would. But beyond this factic reality, in political perspective, Hizbollah can be the nail to the Netanyahu cabinet. If brave warriors are able to inflict heavy casualties It would reveal all Katz estrategy a complete failure, and with the fall of Netanyahu another Government would be more receptive of Syrian interests.
It is pragmatism. And Irán seems to be pragmatical too.
 
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PAF F-16 escorted Iranian plane

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F16 was a poor choice IMHO - J10CE would have worked better. There may have been operational reasons why they choose the F16 though.
 


Exclusive: Downed US pilot reported seeing Iranian drones swarm in ‘jellyfish’ formation​

ByZachary CohenZachary Cohen,Katie Bo LillisKatie Bo Lillis
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This photo released by Iranian state media and geolocated by CNN appears to show the burnt out wreckage of several aircraft about 50 kilometers from the Iranian city of Esfahan on April 5, 2026. State media claimed Iranian forces shot down the aircraft seen in the images.

This photo released by Iranian state media and geolocated by CNN appears to show the burnt out wreckage of several aircraft about 50 kilometers from the Iranian city of Esfahan on April 5, 2026. State media claimed Iranian forces shot down the aircraft seen in the images.
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A US fighter jet pilot rescued by special forces after being shot down over Iran in April described a shocking sight before ejecting from his aircraft: multiple Iranian drones hovering in the air, moving as one, in a formation that resembled a jellyfish, according to four sources familiar with the matter.

The account, which has not been previously reported, was shared by the F-15 pilot with intelligence officials during a debriefing after the incident. It immediately set off a firestorm of debate within the US intelligence community that has yet to be resolved.

If the airman really saw what he described — a formation moving in unison — it would be an alarming advance in Iranian drone capabilities.

“Multiple drones interconnected and moving as one with smaller drones below the bigger drones like legs,” one of the sources familiar with the pilot’s witness account told CNN. “Real alien sh*t.”

Another source told CNN the pilot described witnessing a “minefield of drones” in the air.

While the exact cause of the F-15 downing is still being investigated, initial reports indicated that it was possible the drone formation had in some way enabled Iran to shoot down the American jet, according to two of the sources.

The F-15 carried a crew of two — a pilot and a weapons system officer. US forces immediately launched search and rescue efforts, CNN previously reported.

The downing of the F-15 fighter jet marked the first time a US aircraft has been shot down over Iran during the conflict.

The pilot was rescued hours after ejecting from the aircraft, while the weapons systems officer evaded Iranian capture in the mountains for more than a day before also being rescued. It is not clear if the weapons systems officer also saw the drone formation.

A second aircraft, an A-10, was downed during the rescue effort but that pilot managed to eject safely outside of Iranian airspace.

US intelligence officials disagreed on how to interpret what the F-15 pilot described, and whether the pilot could recount the incident clearly.

For one thing, he was concussed in the crash. It was his second time being shot out of the sky during the Iran war: he had also been among the pilots downed in a friendly fire incident by Kuwaiti forces early in the conflict, according to two of the sources.

Had he witnessed a mature capability that US intelligence wasn’t aware of? A beta test? A mirage in the desert?

The intelligence officials conducting the debrief said something to the effect of: “Are you sure you saw what you are saying you saw?” another one of the sources said.

The US Air Force directed queries to US Central Command, which did not directly address questions from CNN. The Office of the Director of National Intelligence did not reply to a request for comment.

The questions about Iran’s drone program come as the US and Tehran negotiate a deal that would end the Iran war, having begun a 60-day window for talks as part of a ceasefire last week. Those talks are expected to focus on Iran’s nuclear program, though a wide range of issues have been raised by both parties.

While the specific drone capability described by the pilot was not something that US intelligence agencies had previously assessed Iran possessed, there is a trail of reports indicating that Iran had been receiving assistance in developing its drone technology from China and Russia, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

The technical term for the capability described by the pilot is “one-to-many meshed networking,” according to the sources.

In general, meshed networking allows an operator to command several drones at a time.

Other countries — Russia and China — are believed to have the capability. Any development in Iran’s already-sophisticated drone warfare program would be a concern for US forces and its allies in the region.

Meshed networking could also theoretically be used to provide internet connectivity in remote areas without existing infrastructure, noted one US official — in theory, a benign function.

Iran aggressively employed its attack drones as an asymmetric weapon during the weeks-long conflict against US and Israeli forces as well as nearby Gulf countries.

“We will spend huge, huge dollars, like a lot of blood and treasure, protecting ourselves from something that can coordinate like that,” Emma Bates, a drone warfare and defense modernization expert who founded the company Cachai, told CNN, referring to the threat posed by meshed networking capabilities for drones.

“If it can coordinate itself into a recognizable shape and maintain that shape, and if it’s got explosives on board, and if it is holding resources in reserve to attack whatever the first volley didn’t destroy – that’s a very capable approach,” Bates said.





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Unbelievable ! Not expected at all. Alarm drone warfare is far more advanced that initially thought.
 
Escorted into Islamabad by SIX Pakistani fighter jets ?!

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Why do i feel that Pakistan will pull Iran into military alliance along with Saudia Arabia, Turkey and Egypt to form a grand alliance, Muslims NATO? Long term logistically it will make a lot of sense.

Thoughts?
 
Why do i feel that Pakistan will pull Iran into military alliance along with Saudia Arabia, Turkey and Egypt to form a grand alliance, Muslims NATO? Long term logistically it will make a lot of sense.

Thoughts?

That was what was happening before Israel attacked Iran and may have been the reason for the attack itself.
 
Why do i feel that Pakistan will pull Iran into military alliance along with Saudia Arabia, Turkey and Egypt to form a grand alliance, Muslims NATO? Long term logistically it will make a lot of sense.

Thoughts?
That will be a very welcome move, and is very much needed; considering the Israeli military footprint in the UAE and its increased alliance with India (and India’s proximity to the Taliban in Afghanistan).
 

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