Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[VCheng]

The salary in the US is 5000$ per month

It's not like they need all of that

Everything should be made to take as much money as possible, it's never enough, Iranians need that money much more than Americans spending their wages to buy golden Tudors and Rolexes

Of course. Iranians deserve all that they can get, and more, as the rewards of victory. And now no one will be able to stop them from doing so.

 

[Persian Gulf]

IRGC not backing down

 

[tsunset]

Nice projection of themselves into Iran

 

[ShapurII]

This is hilarious. Has this idiot never seen a cargo been boarded and seized in his life?

 

[VCheng]

This is hilarious. Has this idiot never seen a cargo been boarded and seized in his life?

What is more hilarious is the part where he says "Let's pretend that we went crazy and lost our minds completely". Why pretend when it is real?!

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Oil prices are almost back to pre-war numbers and are still falling further.

WTI crude: $69.5
Brent crude: $72.68

People who said that oil prices would remain high for months or years after the war seem to have been wrong. This isn't good for Iran.

There is strong market pressure to bring them down fast... but long-term trends will keep them hovering around mid 80s...

People want fast relief, especially these months in the US when the travel season kicks off or it goes bust. A lots of businesses rely on that... question is what he'll be willing to do o keep them down prior to midterms to dampen the impact on republican voter.

It means Iran is the wrench in the spanner... should orange seek to open the front again, arm twist or back out of it... all of which is possible... but less likely the longer it goes on. It means Iran should stick to its guns and never let go of straits... all tankers must get registered, a separate insurance and reinsurance business canbe set up in Iran and a parallel tracking agency such as UKMTO set up with a web page showing global and local maritime traffic... volume and projections... etc.
There are endless possibilities.

 

[Master Chief]

The $300 billion will help repair and reconstruct all of the losses you mention, obviously. The tolls from the Strait will then add billions every year to this huge bonanza of victory.

I don't think this will be the case. In fact, it is a deliberately emphasised misdirection by BOTH parties.

Sanction free trade will provide for Iran's long term and sustainable economic regrowth. They know how to run a country for long term gain, sustaining high development and social indices even under sanction.

The real reward comes in lifting of sanctions, achieved by Iranian violence against multiple parties. Aggression pays well and is rewarded and respected by Americans, it would seem. Trump knows it and the Iranians know it.

The 300 bill and even the Hormuz fees would be a bonus cash injection, of course, but nothing really beyond that.

 

[VCheng]

The real reward comes in lifting of sanctions, achieved by Iranian violence against multiple parties. Aggression pays well and is rewarded and respected by Americans, it would seem. Trump knows it and the Iranians know it.

And nobody dare deny any of that!

The huge economic boom of sweet victory has begun!

 

[Watandar]

I keep going back to the F-15 shootdown in early April. Trump went completely insane and began issuing genocidal threats to Iran. The ceasefire that was arranged a few days later is still holding. This event was the true turning point in the war.

So what happened ? Well we are still trying to get the information, but the big picture is that Mr Trump had been sold this war as an easy victory by Netanyahu and despite all the setbacks, was still listening to him in early April. The final blunder by Trump was to green light an operation to directly attack the main Iranian nuke facility that was holding their enriched uranium, by using ground forces to collapse the entrance tunnels themselves and sealing off the whole facility for years, rather than just attacking the tunnel entrances using aircraft. This was an operation the Israelis had been encouraging the US to carry out since the Obama era, and had been described by Obama officials as "crazy".

The two below Substack articles have, IMO, the best information and analysis on why the F-15 pilot rescue was more likely a cover story for a failed Special Forces raid on Pickaxe Mountain

The Raid That Never Happened

The airstrip was picked, the CIA was running info campaigns, the aircrafts went down, the plan went down in flames like a Chinook

pawglvr69.substack.com

The Isfahan Debacle: Inside the Failed Raid That Shook Washington

The sequence of events that unfolded between April 2nd and April 5th, 2026, over central Iran represents one of the most complex and controversial military episodes in recent memory.

nitishastra.substack.com

It was after the failure of this Op that Trump seemed to finally realize how badly he had been misled by Netanyahu and the neocons into this war. They have been sidelined ever since.

 

[Watandar]

— / NEW: Iran has informed the U.S. through the newly established Hormuz de-confliction communication channel that it has bombed a tanker

The American side reportedly exclaimed ‘What the f*ck man? What do you mean?’ upon hearing the news.

@Middle_East_Spectator

 

[Ali_Baba]

Per Brandon J. Weichert ( the Senior National Security Editor at 19FortyFive.com) post US-Israel/ Iran war where the US will look to retreat from the region, there will be 5 major powers in the greater middle east calling the shots

SA, Iran, Pak, Egypt & Turkey

The Israelis are screwed

And - "no India" .... Just saying.

( infact India is no where right now, not in East Asia or West Asia .. )

 

[925boy]

Significant American concession to Iran

This means less Iranian oil for China, which is good, because China took advantage of Iran a bit by buying a ton of its sanctioned oil at unfair prices.

 

[HAIDER]

This means less Iranian oil for China, which is good, because China took advantage of Iran a bit by buying a ton of its sanctioned oil at unfair prices.

Both China and India.

 

[PakistanLVR]

It was a domestic political need immediately after the revolution; an external threat legitimizes the rule. India does it well. Then it found legs of its own; the US reaction to it, in no small part due to the interests of the Israelis and the Arabs, turned it into a feedback loop.

Add to that the Muslim religious circles' ridiculous insistence on fighting it out of our current situations. If you were to elect/select a religious party in Pakistan, the same will happen.



Left the Kashmiris high and dry though, despite the long history of support Pakistan provided them. Then there's the 90s between them and the Saudis across the region, including Pakistan. The Iranians did and continue to do what they need to for their own interests. Muslim interests have nothing to do with it. Pakistanis should take a page from them.

It’s exactly a Muslim issue but also ties in non religious interests as well ie water wars etc.

It’s easier when your foreign policy is defined by Islam and the Quran (that a lot of non-Shias claim that it’s just good old Persian nationalism and expansionism wrapped in religion). They stood their ground with principles.

The Kashmir issue makes me very angry. Pakistan should never have stepped the intensity of Indians getting BBQ in IOK. Pakistan pulled back and the intensity of attacks in Baluchistan and KPK went up exponentially.

The J33ts escalated knowing they were safe and sound in IOk. Bold enough to block Pakistans water and become more aggressively.

Make the MoFos burn!

 

[ety]

This means less Iranian oil for China, which is good, because China took advantage of Iran a bit by buying a ton of its sanctioned oil at unfair prices.

Chinese private oil companies are taking risks of being sanctioned by US of buying Iranian oil, so some discounts for the compensation. Thats normal business. No other countries except Chinese companies were willing to take the risks and US pressures to buy Iranian oil for years.