Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Magi]

Getting Oman involved in the Strait of Hormuz is a mistake.

Oman is no friend of Iran's. Treating Oman differently was a mistake.

 

[Meengla]

If just 10 US soldiers leave Persian Gulf, Irán won the war.

Well, the CIA guy Larry Johnson said on Judge Napo show today that those aircrafts deployed to attack Iran and currently stationed at Ben Gurion Airport are being brought back home to America.
The Litmus Test for the American disengagement would be the recently deployed American assets removed from the region.

 

[Magi]

As expected, Iran appears to have already fallen under the control of reformists colluding with the United States. Despite having its territory bombed, it declared it would not retaliate and thus submitted to Trump’s authority.
With this, Iran’s transformation into another Lebanon is complete; from now on, Trump will likely continue to bomb Iran without hesitation.

I was doubtful about this until Qalibaf's recent Persian language interviews. He is a slithering sophist. and I can see him fully transforming into a Delcy Rodriguez. He is half way there. His history of financial corruption made him a good candidate for the US. Mojtaba is MIA and assuming a weak stance at best. The US will continue to attack and burn Iran. The only escape is an internal coup. But that is unlikely because weirdly enough democratic institutions in Iran are quite robust.

 

[lightning f57]

Be interesting to see if Iran retaliates by hitting US bases. If they dont it makes you wonder why they attacked that ship in first place if you wont defend your red lines.

 

[Starlord]

 

[VCheng]

Getting Oman involved in the Strait of Hormuz is a mistake.

Oman is no friend of Iran's. Treating Oman differently was a mistake.

In international geopolitics, there are no permanent friends or enemies, only enduring national interests. Every country is in the game for itself, and itself alone.

Oman has a coast along the Strait just the same as Iran, and many other states are along the entire body of water as well. They all will try to further their own national interests when push comes to shove. ALL of them.

In other news, water remains just as wet as ever!

 

[Shags101]

Be interesting to see if Iran retaliates by hitting US bases. If they dont it makes you wonder why they attacked that ship in first place if you wont defend your red lines.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/revolutionary-guards-say-they-targeted-us-sites-in-gulf-after-strikes-on-iran/

Well they said they did looks like a tit for tat as long as American forces don’t keep responding

 

[Meengla]

With no effective US (or Pakistani) protection from Iran, Saudia is exposed, which is why it's trying to bribe Iran to not attack or disintegrate it's state, but Iran will decide what it wants from Saudia for there to be "peace" between both powerful Islamic states.

A Non-aggression pact between Iran and Saudi Arabia would be very good as that would give Saudi Arabia a framework to deny the use of its bases and even airspace to the Americans. And looking at the relatively fewer Iranian strikes on Saudi Arabia--and mind you, some of them could be Israeli False Flag--Iran wants friendly relations with Saudi Arabia and the FMs of both countries remained in contact through this conflict.
Much credit to be given to Pakistan and Turkey for keeping the sanity between the two countries.

 

[Magi]

In international geopolitics, there are no permanent friends or enemies, only enduring national interests. Every country is in the game for itself, and itself alone.

Oman has a coast along the Strait just the same as Iran, and many other states are along the entire body of water as well. They all will try to further their own national interests when push comes to shove. ALL of them.

In other news, water remains just as wet as ever!

Most countries are on a gradient of vassalage. Their interests are secondary to US', China's, Russia's or a combination thereof. Oman's craven act of giving up its sovereign waters to the US after Iran tried to return it is a perfect example.

'Friend' in this context is an entity that aligns with Iran due to religious or long term geopolitical interest.

 

[Lulldapull]

With no effective US (or Pakistani) protection from Iran, Saudia is exposed, which is why it's trying to bribe Iran to not attack or disintegrate it's state, but Iran will decide what it wants from Saudia for there to be "peace" between both powerful Islamic states.

Sawdi Judea is a Zionist franchise. Lets be honest 'Johnny' no?

Come on no?

'Johnny' da camel jaaky no?

 

[925boy]

Complaince to the deal is something that the USA will need to enforce on Israel.

And until we find out what actual "restrictions " US puts on Israel that actually have real and relevant implications for Israel, there is no reason to believe or accept all the intentionally manufactured propaganda media stories about rifts between US and Israel, because the intention is to make all of us think US and Israel have issues, and that Israelk sway on US govt and politicians is weakening , etc- until we see real proof of that, it's all rubbish, and remember talk is cheap and isn't worth anything any country can say anything ,because it's just words until it's backed up to prove it's real and communicates real intent. Biden criticized Israel on the media during the gaza war, but sent Israel weapons secretly in the middle of the night. Let's be wiser.

 

[RocketLaw]

The IRGC adds that "according to Clause 5 of the Islamabad MoU, the arrangements for controlling passage and traffic in the Strait of Hormuz are under the authority of the Islamic Republic of Iran," warning "if the aggression is repeated, our response will be broader than this."

 

[Lulldapull]

The IRGC adds that "according to Clause 5 of the Islamabad MoU, the arrangements for controlling passage and traffic in the Strait of Hormuz are under the authority of the Islamic Republic of Iran," warning "if the aggression is repeated, our response will be broader than this."

In other words, without Iran's permission, yous can't transit dem straits.

@RealNapster what about 'do rupay k' colluddz?

What's going to become of them now?

 

[925boy]

Trump could well defy APAC and much of MAGA would not only back him, but also celebrate.

Sure, in Dreamland. And after Mariam Adelson gave him $200m for his presidential campaign?

In practical terms, US can turn off the Israeli Air Force within days.. The F-35s being a particular weak point

US can, but it never will. End of story. Until major changes happen in the US govt and it's relationship with Israel, US will never do such a thing. this might happen when US loses it's empire/global control, but until then, it's a pipe dream , and we are allowed to dream!

 

[925boy]

Sawdi Judea is a Zionist franchise. Lets be honest 'Johnny' no?

Come on no?

'Johnny' da camel jaaky no?

I think you have a point, but let's give Saudi Jewdea some credit- they know how to operate a Zionist franchise in the best stealth mode possible.