Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Nawnaw1]

The question I have, who has China sent?

 

[Yasser76]

The question I have, who has China sent?

Vice Chairman of National Peoples Congress

 

[Watandar]

So far the only European country delegation present

Europeans, GCC, US and Israel sending a delegate would be another admission of their defeat in this war.

 

[tsunset]

The question I have, who has China sent?

 

[Professor Jiang]

And contrary to what some may believe: Israeli Jews rightly perceive they would be fighting for their survival and would fight hard. People are not moving to a dangerous, parched land from the comforts of Brooklyn had they not had deep ideological attachments.

I actually reckon that, if the last few years have taught us anything, it is that Israelis are very eager to run away at the first sign of anything remotely existential. That's always going to be made worse for their society when everyone has at least two or even three passports and can leave whenever they like.

 

[tsunset]

 

[Meengla]

Cannot help think this is another blunder by Jaishanker

Indian foreign policy is a reflection of India's domestic policy since Modi came to power in 2014. The blunders continue. It wouldn't hurt India to send at least its Speaker of the National Assembly (the Lok Sabha) to the funeral instead of sending the low level delegates.
PS. The fruits of 'democracy' enjoyed by the Indians, the Israelis, and the Americans by electing the clowns like Modi, Netanyahu and Trump. On the other hand, Pakistan is finally shedding the ghosts of the fake democracy introduced after Zia's death in 1988 and a large part of the civilian and the military leadership and population are on same platform. Thus you see Pakistan marching forward! A perfect example of governance before the 'real' Scandinavian like democracy could be implemented.

 

[PakistanLVR]

Remember when this is happening.... these people are arriving under threat of violence. They're still sending and arriving with the top tier leadership in country that is going through an uneasy ceasefire.... something none on the other side of this war will expect on their own funerals.

If that isn't eternal damnation, then what is? The loathing of the whole planet while they pursue their evil designs.

Wish you would’ve tagged the folks here who every opportunity they get and sh*t on Pakistans leadership as sold out or American puppets. Look at who showed up to the funeral and who didn’t. The ones who didn’t even bother are the actual puppets.

 

[PakistanLVR]

Indian foreign policy is a reflection of India's domestic policy since Modi came to power in 2014. The blunders continue. It wouldn't hurt India to send at least its Speaker of the National Assembly (the Lok Sabha) to the funeral instead of sending the low level delegates.
PS. The fruits of 'democracy' enjoyed by the Indians, the Israelis, and the Americans by electing the clowns like Modi, Netanyahu and Trump. On the other hand, Pakistan is finally shedding the ghosts of the fake democracy introduced after Zia's death in 1988 and a large part of the civilian and the military leadership and population are on same platform. Thus you see Pakistan marching forward! A perfect example of governance before the 'real' Scandinavian like democracy could be implemented.

According to this Indian vermin here these men are connected therefore modi himself is there. That Indian general was chosen because he’s of Shia background and served well in Kashmir. The Indians divide and rule per their Chanayka doctrine. Send a Sikh to deal with the Sikhs insurgency and a Shia Muslim to deal with the Sunni insurgency. That’s their game plan

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Israeli Channel 13 said that after 1,000 days of fighting, not a single "decisive victory" has been achieved on any front.

It added that Iran emerged from the war in a stronger position, having gained a measure of international legitimacy while its economy has begun to recover.

The Israeli channel also lamented that the war has imposed heavy human, economic, and psychological costs on “Israel” while also weakening its regional and international standing.

The conduct of the war with Iran has damaged one of “Israel’s” most important strategic assets: its relationship with the United States, according to Channel 13.




It looks like a reality is catching up with that evil, child-killing entity.

 

[Meengla]

Wish you would’ve tagged the folks here who every opportunity they get and sh*t on Pakistans leadership as sold out or American puppets. Look at who showed up to the funeral and who didn’t. The ones who didn’t even bother are the actual puppets.

The Supreme Leader funeral is indeed a the world 'showing' its hand! Months of who stood where is being shown through such a mundane event like a funeral!

 

[PakistanLVR]

Israeli armed forces, under Israel's nuclear umbrella, are capable of defeating even the Egyptian military. And contrary to what some may believe: Israeli Jews rightly perceive they would be fighting for their survival and would fight hard. People are not moving to a dangerous, parched land from the comforts of Brooklyn had they not had deep ideological attachments.
But remove the nuclear umbrella... I believe Egypt can whoop them! Why? Because Egyptians outnumber them and are willing to die, unlike the Israelis.

I doubt Egypt can defeat them. Egyptian military is utterly corrupt and inept. The fact they purchased planes without BVRs so not to upset the boat.
I’m ashamed of previously calling Pakistan the Egypt of South Asia when Pakistan military is exponentially more nationalist and actually cares about the defense of Pakistan. The Egypt post that when they signed on to the camp David accords which provided $2-$3bn a year to them. Try giving someone free money and see them become lazy, incompetent, lack a drive to better themselves. Thats what that monkey Sisi is. They stood back and Israel occupied the border with Gaza/Egypt when it was forbidden by the camp David treaty.

 

[Meengla]

I’m ashamed of previously calling Pakistan the Egypt of South Asia when Pakistan military is exponentially more nationalist and actually cares about the defense of Pakistan. The Egypt post that when they signed on to the camp David accords which provided $2-$3bn a year to them. Try giving someone free money and see them become lazy, incompetent, lack a drive to better themselves. Thats what that monkey Sisi is. They stood back and Israel occupied the border with Gaza/Egypt when it was forbidden by the camp David treaty.

We will go into off topic but no comparison between Pakistan and Egypt, just like no comparison between Pakistan and Iran. Different geopolitical situations. Very different. Pakistan, since its inception in 1947, has been facing a giant, powerful neighbor which would have gobbled up the entire Pakistani territory: Look at the recent statement by Indian's Defense Minister over even the Sindh province!
No other country in the world has faced such an enormous threat for so long in modern history as Pakistan has. And to all those idiots who have been calling the Pakistanis as American puppets: EFF OFF! Pakistan has to protect Pakistan first before worrying about the Middle East. Some idiots here were even parroting that Pakistan joining the Gaza Peace Board meant Pakistan was going to disarm the Gazans to please the Americans. Shameless fools but there posts are still in this forum.
In the context of this thread, I had said months ago that Pakistan would never betray Iran. Never. And that has borne true and will bear true.

 

[Watandar]

Wish you would’ve tagged the folks here who every opportunity they get and sh*t on Pakistans leadership as sold out or American puppets. Look at who showed up to the funeral and who didn’t. The ones who didn’t even bother are the actual puppets.

I agree, that is a very good litmus test. The true puppets are the ones who sent no representatives to the funeral.

 

[Magi]

You don't have knowledge, then don't speak. What Chinese planes? The only commercial jets China makes are the C909 and C919, FULL of Western equipment. So what do you mean?
And Iran has many old planes, this is heavy lift widebody planes that can be used at least for a couple of years. Iran has been getting old widebody planes for years, a340 etc. So this is interim and heavy lift. This doesn't mean this is the only advantage Iran gets from the MOU.
On top of that, there are SEVERE backlogs in new airplane manufacturing, the world's carriers are facing many years of delays. Both Boeing and Airbus. Reasonable young widebody second hand planes are spoken for long before the MOU came up. Face it, only planes almost going to the scrapper can be shipped quickly and used for a few years.

I'll make it simple so even you can understand. Chinese planes may be 60% western sourced. That is a 40% upgrade for ease of maintenance and parts availability.

Iran has many old planes because of the old order that imposed this on Iran. The whole point of winning a war is to flip that script.

Nobody cares about planes being spoken for. The old rules are over. No safety and security for Iran means no security for Saudi and the rest of the puppets. That includes the safety of a flying a new plane vs 30 year old junk. This looks like charity not tribute by a defeated foreign satellite state.