Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Meengla]

Wish you would’ve tagged the folks here who every opportunity they get and sh*t on Pakistans leadership as sold out or American puppets. Look at who showed up to the funeral and who didn’t. The ones who didn’t even bother are the actual puppets.

The Supreme Leader funeral is indeed a the world 'showing' its hand! Months of who stood where is being shown through such a mundane event like a funeral!

 

[PakistanLVR]

Israeli armed forces, under Israel's nuclear umbrella, are capable of defeating even the Egyptian military. And contrary to what some may believe: Israeli Jews rightly perceive they would be fighting for their survival and would fight hard. People are not moving to a dangerous, parched land from the comforts of Brooklyn had they not had deep ideological attachments.
But remove the nuclear umbrella... I believe Egypt can whoop them! Why? Because Egyptians outnumber them and are willing to die, unlike the Israelis.

I doubt Egypt can defeat them. Egyptian military is utterly corrupt and inept. The fact they purchased planes without BVRs so not to upset the boat.
I’m ashamed of previously calling Pakistan the Egypt of South Asia when Pakistan military is exponentially more nationalist and actually cares about the defense of Pakistan. The Egypt post that when they signed on to the camp David accords which provided $2-$3bn a year to them. Try giving someone free money and see them become lazy, incompetent, lack a drive to better themselves. Thats what that monkey Sisi is. They stood back and Israel occupied the border with Gaza/Egypt when it was forbidden by the camp David treaty.

 

[Meengla]

I’m ashamed of previously calling Pakistan the Egypt of South Asia when Pakistan military is exponentially more nationalist and actually cares about the defense of Pakistan. The Egypt post that when they signed on to the camp David accords which provided $2-$3bn a year to them. Try giving someone free money and see them become lazy, incompetent, lack a drive to better themselves. Thats what that monkey Sisi is. They stood back and Israel occupied the border with Gaza/Egypt when it was forbidden by the camp David treaty.

We will go into off topic but no comparison between Pakistan and Egypt, just like no comparison between Pakistan and Iran. Different geopolitical situations. Very different. Pakistan, since its inception in 1947, has been facing a giant, powerful neighbor which would have gobbled up the entire Pakistani territory: Look at the recent statement by Indian's Defense Minister over even the Sindh province!
No other country in the world has faced such an enormous threat for so long in modern history as Pakistan has. And to all those idiots who have been calling the Pakistanis as American puppets: EFF OFF! Pakistan has to protect Pakistan first before worrying about the Middle East. Some idiots here were even parroting that Pakistan joining the Gaza Peace Board meant Pakistan was going to disarm the Gazans to please the Americans. Shameless fools but there posts are still in this forum.
In the context of this thread, I had said months ago that Pakistan would never betray Iran. Never. And that has borne true and will bear true.

 

[Watandar]

Wish you would’ve tagged the folks here who every opportunity they get and sh*t on Pakistans leadership as sold out or American puppets. Look at who showed up to the funeral and who didn’t. The ones who didn’t even bother are the actual puppets.

I agree, that is a very good litmus test. The true puppets are the ones who sent no representatives to the funeral.

 

[Magi]

You don't have knowledge, then don't speak. What Chinese planes? The only commercial jets China makes are the C909 and C919, FULL of Western equipment. So what do you mean?
And Iran has many old planes, this is heavy lift widebody planes that can be used at least for a couple of years. Iran has been getting old widebody planes for years, a340 etc. So this is interim and heavy lift. This doesn't mean this is the only advantage Iran gets from the MOU.
On top of that, there are SEVERE backlogs in new airplane manufacturing, the world's carriers are facing many years of delays. Both Boeing and Airbus. Reasonable young widebody second hand planes are spoken for long before the MOU came up. Face it, only planes almost going to the scrapper can be shipped quickly and used for a few years.

I'll make it simple so even you can understand. Chinese planes may be 60% western sourced. That is a 40% upgrade for ease of maintenance and parts availability.

Iran has many old planes because of the old order that imposed this on Iran. The whole point of winning a war is to flip that script.

Nobody cares about planes being spoken for. The old rules are over. No safety and security for Iran means no security for Saudi and the rest of the puppets. That includes the safety of a flying a new plane vs 30 year old junk. This looks like charity not tribute by a defeated foreign satellite state.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[SecularNationalist]

World Cup will be over. Some of ya's have been speculating that President Trump is going to wait until after the Cup before resuming hostilities on Iran.

Come on bro. Sports events hardly impact war decisions.

 

[Professor Jiang]

Come on bro. Sports events hardly impact war decisions.

Trump is a deranged freak whose second biggest policy priority after saving Israel is building a solid gold ballroom at the White House. I absolutely believe that the World Cup factors into his decision-making.

 

[Nawnaw1]

I'll make it simple so even you can understand. Chinese planes may be 60% western sourced. That is a 40% upgrade for ease of maintenance and parts availability.

Iran has many old planes because of the old order that imposed this on Iran. The whole point of winning a war is to flip that script.

Nobody cares about planes being spoken for. The old rules are over. No safety and security for Iran means no security for Saudi and the rest of the puppets. That includes the safety of a flying a new plane vs 30 year old junk. This looks like charity not tribute by a defeated foreign satellite state.

Let me make it simple for you. You think spare parts are more available for the 777 with almost 2000 copies flying around in the world on every continent? Or a C919 with only 40 copies in fleets only in China?

And why can't you wait? You thought MOU day 1 means all new airbus and boeing airplanes? Who says this even has anything to do with the MOU? You think the world will keep bending to the US and their silly sanctions? The world is changing rapidly.

 

[tsunset]

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[Yasser76]

According to this Indian vermin here these men are connected therefore modi himself is there. That Indian general was chosen because he’s of Shia background and served well in Kashmir. The Indians divide and rule per their Chanayka doctrine. Send a Sikh to deal with the Sikhs insurgency and a Shia Muslim to deal with the Sunni insurgency. That’s their game plan

Iranians should have used AI to make an award, Modi would have rushed over.....

‘Give him any award, and he’ll come running’: Narendra Modi racks up honours on overseas trips

Indian prime minister has a habit of collecting awards on his travels, some as their first and only recipient

www.theguardian.com

 

[Watandar]

Iranians should have used AI to make an award, Modi would have rushed over.....

‘Give him any award, and he’ll come running’: Narendra Modi racks up honours on overseas trips

Indian prime minister has a habit of collecting awards on his travels, some as their first and only recipient

www.theguardian.com

Well......if he is the only recipient then doesn't that make the award extra special ? Trump is no different and may be jealous of Mr Modi getting all these uber exclusive medals.

 

[lightning f57]

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Practically speaking, Pakistan is Iran’s closest state ally at this point.

Not an inch of territory used to attack Iran.

Seems SA and Qatar have changed course as well they have seen reality of anerican protective guarantees.

The small kinglets are the issue at the moment for Iran

 

[Arash]

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Pakistan of course. But why the heck India ???????????????????????

 

[SecularNationalist]

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Bro Saudis should not be welcomed at the funeral. They are complicit in that war against Iran. MBS wanted US and Isreal to invade Iran.
Now they are trying to save face and respecting the changed direction of wind.
Iran should only share its moments of happiness and griefs with it's friends not the hidden snakes.