Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[FUB]

The people who claimed Iran was handling this perfectly and had won the war can now see why their comments were extremely stupid.

How should they have handled it ?
They fought eight countries including two nuclear armed nations. IRGC flipped the tables on the Americans.
Every move shows the world the Epstein class can not be trusted.
Taking in $20 billion is not exactly pocket change .

You were the one talking about the drought and how it was the incompetence of the regime and how your family supposedly in Tehran didn’t have water. What happened? The war proved the US actively was manipulating the weather.

Iran handled the war and post war quite well.

 

[Persian Gulf]

every time iran says they will respond disproportionately the next time the U.S. attacks

And every time Iran responds proportionately by firing a few missiles at drones at Bahrain and Kuwait

Iran is becoming too predictable

 

[Persian Gulf]

Iran downed a US MQ-9 drone over Khormuj

 

[abgoosht]

every time iran says they will respond disproportionately the next time the U.S. attacks

And every time Iran responds proportionately by firing a few missiles at drones at Bahrain and Kuwait

Iran is becoming too predictable

And because of this Iran has not established deterrance because it keeps getting hit. Which begs the question what is the end game of all of this.

 

[Nawnaw1]

It is becoming evident that Iran has yet to establish a credible deterrent. It did the correct thing by targeting ships crossing over without its permission. But then US is attempting to normalize frequent strikes against Iranian interests with minimal pushback. It's not working and this type of battles put Iran at a disadvantage.

If Iran genuinely wants to achieve deterrence, it has to shed away the passive approach. Iranian planners should seriously consider targeting US military assets or key economic interests in the Gulf instead of just symbolic strikes E.g data centres etc.

Nonsense. The fact that the US refuses to fully give up and resort to this childish tit for tat, doesn´t mean that Iran has not established deterrent. US is doing forceful diplomacy, calculated. Why haven't they touched Iran's critical infrastructure? Energy?

And if Iran didn't establish deterrance, why the MOU? Why doesn't any navy dare sail through Hormuz or the Persian Gulf?

You are, in my opinion, mixing up having established deterrance on the one hand, and forcing a full surrender by the US on the other hand. These are not the same.

 

[Nawnaw1]

I have two economic indicators for you:

Oil prices before signing the MoU: $105 per barrel.
Oil prices after signing the MoU: $70 per barrel.

1 USD against Iranian Toman after signing the MoU: 150K.
1 USD against Iranian Toman right now: 180K.

If you think Trump is boiling in the pot, you're looking at the wrong pot, or live in the world of fantasy.

Oil back at 80 and rising. Who cares about Iranian inflation DURING war. What happens after is important. The ball hasn't fallen on the ground yet, it's still falling. In other words: this conflict is still a work in progress. Cry when inflation stays for years and nothing has been achieved, not while parties are actively trying to get the better negotiating position.

 

[kobra]

Iran downed a US MQ-9 drone over Khormuj

He was sitting at wing span of MQ-9...

 

[Persian Gulf]

He was sitting at wing span of MQ-9...

Two unrelated incidents lol

 

[Hayabusa]

And because of this Iran has not established deterrance because it keeps getting hit. Which begs the question what is the end game of all of this.

The only way to achieve deterrence is to search this ships that are launching the missiles and fire them.

US already knows it can't control. The Straits. So it's next strategy is to continue bombing Iranian targets from a range.

Until Iran doesn't target this ship, it will forever be under US attacks until they achieve what they want. Iran's equipment are also precious and they need to be preserved as much as possible.

 

[Lulldapull]

Iran downed a US MQ-9 drone over Khormuj

Lot of huge tiger/ bull sharks around the straits. I bet hes long been digested by now.

 

[Yasser76]

Unsure how much of this new wave of attacks is posturing and getting an upperhand in the negotiations, we are too far down the line and both sides have too much to lose for going back to full scale war.

I think take out all the social media noise/click baits, this will be just like the last few attacks and over soon

 

[Arash]

Time to finish the UAE Kuwait and Bahrain....

 

[Oracle]

Why Iran attack civil ships at time of talks?
OR was it someone else who attacked ships?

 

[Flotilla]

But then later U.S. told Oman if you charge tolls we will obliterate you. And Oman backed off the idea and became complicit with the West and Arabs.

Well at that point this means that Oman didn't backstabbed Irán. At much they gave up because credible threads.
I am pretty sure that if Islamic Republic can wipe out US far from Straits (something achievable if they play well their cards) Oman will return back to the agreement with Irán.

 

[Indos]

Why Iran attack civil ships at time of talks?
OR was it someone else who attacked ships?

Dont know seems stupid for me, most likely ego driven

Better accept the reality and let the strait open, if not then Iran cannot get developed and grow economically while another Muslim countries (Gulf countries) will suffer, only Israel that will smiling