Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[shapurzolaktaf]

Someone in Kuwait intercepted Iranian missiles and got injured.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

"More graphic evidence that our White House is incapable of telling the truth. There is zero chance Iran is “begging for a deal,“ and we know this because President Trump has made that canard 40 times since February 28, and it’s been true exactly 0 times.

Why does anyone still give President Trump even the benefit of the doubt? He only knows how to lie, and there is no truth in him.

Not only is this an unethical habit that he is locked himself into, but there will at some point be severe negative implications for our country because no one‘s willing to call him out, and will allow the lies to continue without challenge.

There will be an end to this, however, because at some point, the lack of integrity, and the absence of a strategy are going to have catastrophic manifestations for America. You can count on it."

 

[FUB]

 

[RescueRanger]

 

[hussain0216]

You buy the US debt when you use technology owned by the US.

Microchips, internet services like cloud and AI technology, iPhones, Airbus or Boeing airplanes, US military weapons, etc. That's just the direct part, besides the fact that a large part of energy is traded in the US dollar, which means you are buying the US debt indirectly as well.

Yes, but things are changing

More then ever their are alternatives

U.S debt is now 40 TRILLION, They are adding a trillion after only so many months now
They are running enormous deficits

This is why change and shocks to the system can be so devastating for the U.S

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Let's talk factually. Did any of the Iranian negotiators, news agency, IRGC or its affiliated FARS news or Supreme leader of Iran claimed/indicated/doubted that Iran is being deceived and won't get their money back? Infact Irani team was in Doha to negotiate about the funds few weeks back. People on this board are making outlandish claims because they have zero trust on their own negotiators.

Fool me once... isn't that enough?
Orange clown walked away from JCPOA and has already spent more on military operation than the worth of frozen assets.

Make what you will out of it...

Ones deluded enough to keep put their hand again in vipers den after getting bitten multiple times... deserve it!

 

[RocketLaw]

Jeez, it's starting all over again, just like the previous conflicts in February this year til April.

Same exact old game





I think MOU is official dead and no longer relevant

 

[BHAN85]

Observe what USA does, not what USA says.

USA is fcking Hormuz strait, not protecting it.

 

[BigMela2onin]

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[Magi]

Iran is in FATF black list. Do you know what it means ?

You post a lot of fallacies, and it is beyond my patience to go over all of them. Your mind is made up and debating with that mentality is futile. @ShapurII has the patience of a saint (or Imam?) for responding over and over to you when your thoughts are so calcified.

But the statement I quoted is a great microcosm of your thinking so I will address it.

FATF means exactly nothing. Zero. Zilch. Where has FATF been when they fund AQ and countless other death squads on multiple continents? No blacklisting there, eh? FATF and all other similar western levers of power are controlled by the US and applied selectively.

If the US was serious it would deliver Iran's stolen money on day 1. In fact Iran should have demanded the full release of its stolen money (the entire 100-200 billion) as a pre condition before entering any negotiations. But the US was not serious, as it cannot seriously concede to an ascendant Iran. The future of the empire depends on it.

Iran gained control of the Strait of Hormuz and had the world's oil reserves and the sand statelets by the jugular. Instead it gave up that kinetic leverage for a bunch of promises and entered an endless maze of western bureaucracy designed to choke off Iran.

 

[Kyussis]

Salafist a**es are burning!!!

 

[Watandar]

There is zero chance of another US land or amphibious assault. The last time this was attempted was that whole F-15 shootdown/rescue saga in April, which was actually an Op to collapse the entrance tunnels themselves in Pickaxe Mountain, so as to seal off the facility and claim victory, rather than just repeatedly blocking the facility entrances.

You can check my detailed post on that here.

Combine this with FPV drones and it would be extreme recklessness for the US to send ground forces who will subsequently be chased and killed on camera, like the Israelis are in Lebanon or the Russkies in Ukraine.

 

[KAL-EL]

if Iran attacks the USA now during hostilities, it won't be enough to invoke article 5 as the USA is in the middle of a war it started and that is a war of choice.

I don't think it would be enough either. I believe that the us would have had to have been attacked first to invoke article 5.