Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

20% of total world crude consumption

But 40% of total world crude oil exports

Crude oil producers countries spend a lot internally.

He had no point to begin with... during covid there was a demand collapse and US released oil from SPR in 2022 to bring the prices down from all the resumption in demand coming from Asia.


For so many here... oil shock is not even a distant memory. The SPR since Reagan did provide a cushion and petro dollar liquidity...



For the rest...
 
Yanks are preparing for boots on ground. If so, things will escalate out of hand at lightspeed and engulf the whole region. Judging by the vicious Iranian response thus far I fear the worst God forbid.
 
Yanks are preparing for boots on ground. If so, things will escalate out of hand at lightspeed and engulf the whole region. Judging by the vicious Iranian response thus far I fear the worst God forbid.


They might be getting ready, but I doubt Trump himself is that stupid to put boots on the ground. They can't even pull off a solid win with nonstop airstrikes, so why would anyone think a ground war is going to go any better?

Plus, once videos start dropping of FPV drones hitting American troops, it's going to be brutal. That kind of warfare hits a lot harder psychologically than standard bombs and mortars ever did.
 
They might be getting ready, but I doubt Trump himself is that stupid to put boots on the ground. They can't even pull off a solid win with nonstop airstrikes, so why would anyone think a ground war is going to go any better?

Plus, once videos start dropping of FPV drones hitting American troops, it's going to be brutal. That kind of warfare hits a lot harder psychologically than standard bombs and mortars ever did.
I think Trump has amassed around 100k soldiers around Iran ready to fight. However It won't be a full scale invasion of the country. I believe he will target a province, create an anti-mullah militia paramilitary force to take other provinces. Rinse and repeat.

I don't think USA has the willpower to commit 600k soldiers for full scale invasion.
 


Acceptance of the lopsided kill-ratio of Western deaths vs any non-Western deaths have been there for decades, regardless of the race, nation, continent. Just to get one Maduro, dozens of Latinos guarding him were killed and not a peep from the dozens of Latin American countries. Then there was the Vietnam War's kill ratio. Then before that was the World War II where Truman said something like the 'Asiatic' people have high tolerance of taking casualties--he was probably referring to the budding idea of nuking the Japanese. And many wars in between.
Such a sad world we live in. Cruel. Unfair.
 
Let's be clear

This is going to be tough on Iran, as Iran will be hit
Iran will have to ABSORB the attacks


But the exact same equation exists, and that is the closure of the Hormuz and damage to economies in the gulf that are vital for the worlds oil market's, investment markets, fertilizer and transit etc are the big hammer Iran is wielding




The U.S NEEDS Iran to stand down otherwise the economic fallout is going to turn into a economic crisis (just you wait and watch)

But the Trump regime does not want to seem like the losers
They also don't want to remove sanctions
They want Iran to voluntarily reduce their missile and nuclear program and even open Iran economically to the U.S


Iran is not willing to do any of that and now has the cards to demand end to sanctions and no demands on its missile program or security


U.Smay have attacked, but what Iran has done is just hit back and the shock to the economic system is what's causing pain


The U.S can't keep doing this
Iran needs to take out these GCC gypsy quickly.......Bust them up quick and push them down followed by a severe beat down within an inch of their lives.

This needs to be done right away.
 
We did attack Saudi Arabia in the first weeks of war and I didn't really hear much objection from the "entire Muslim world" really. No country deserves to be targeted for this war more than Saudi Arabia, IMO. A close second is the Emirates.
Iran needs to dismantle Sawdi Judea. All US and IDF aircraft overfly Sawdi to attack Iran.
 


Yes, the 'overplayed' argument is being overplayed itself. Per a video I just watched of Pakistan's brilliant retired diplomat Khurshid Kasuri: If Iranians had allowed an alternate route via Oman then the main leverage Iran has would be neutralized and thus would come even more brutal bombing of Iran. Kasuri also said that it is better for Iran to very careful in its targeting because Israelis are trying to pit Muslims nations against each other.
 
So rather than reaching out to USA via mediators, and give warnings Iran just shot missiles at 3 ships including 1 from Qatar? I mean this could've handled better.
Respectfully, you're not in a better position to know this than Iran
 
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This is the Trump base. Not only is Trump out of military options, he is in political peril as well.



Steve Bannon finally said so clearly! Anyone remotely follows this guy would know the importance of this guy. Heck, one of my Christian Zionist lady friend introduced me to Steve during the 2020 elections. I wonder what she feels now about her beloved Israel! She has turned so Zionist that she calls Saturday as 'Shabbat'.
 
Yes, the 'overplayed' argument is being overplayed itself. Per a video I just watched of Pakistan's brilliant retired diplomat Khurshid Kasuri: If Iranians had allowed an alternate route via Oman then the main leverage Iran has would be neutralized and thus would come even more brutal bombing of Iran. Kasuri also said that it is better for Iran to very careful in its targeting because Israelis are trying to pit Muslims nations against each other.

The video. English captions available. He is also mentioning the daunting circumstances and good timing which Pakistan had faced to become a nuclear power. He is politely saying that Iran doesn't have the option to be a nuclear power anymore.
Short video.

 
americans and isrealis will unload on iran, then another ceasefire for a period of time and then another round of attacks. the intent is to incrementally whittle iran down.
That might be the strategy, but I honestly dunno if it s a winning strategies.
 

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