Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

The issue is target selection.

Iran has always been trying to avoid excessive conflagration.

With the accuracy demonstrated hitherto, Iran can easily knock out 1 refinery per day if it tries.

I cannot understand why Iran chose not to.

Because the US and Israel are both nuclear states with international support and will not think twice to use their nukes if push comes to shove. And if people here think that's never going to happen, people also said that the US would never kill Soleimani, Israel would never kill Raeesi or attack Iran on its own, the US would never kill Khamenei and the US would never attack Iran. And all of those things happened and nothing happened from the Iranian side.

Israel has hundreds of nuclear warheads, some of which are strategic nukes over 10 megatons designed to target and wipe out European capitals in their Samson doctrine.

The US has over 6,000 nukes. And I do not need to tell you what the US strategic nuclear stockpile has been designed for because I'm sure everyone knows that the US had to prepare to fight the world's largest country, the Soviet Union, for decades.

As I had said before, a non-nuclear Iran will always be handicapped and at a disadvantage in every aspect of a potential war. And thanks to the late Khamenei, before his death he made sure that going nuclear was no longer an option.

Besides that, we have serious shortcomings when it comes to real-time intelligence. The regime dismantled our space program in the JCPOA, another big mistake. Everything the Islamic regime in Iran has done has always been for propaganda, without any real tangible benefits for the Iranian nation. They kept shooting toasters into space for years, calling it a space program, just like our nuclear program that was absolutely useless both for civilian and military purposes.

 

[omegalamba7xl9]

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A NEW VERSION OF OP BEEPER AND PAGER UNDERWAY....

 

[925boy]

Agreed , he is just making it easier for them to blame Iran when they eventually succeed in killing him

OR he is intentionally falsely blaming Iran to get sympathy from Americans for his unpopular war against Iran. Since he's too hated amongst Americans it likely won't work. he might be the first bsd and hated president the govt won't be able to protect forever.

 

[Homajon]

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Javid Shah with the fitting drawing on the wall

 

[RocketLaw]

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[925boy]

But the thing is I am waiting for Al Jazeera or BBC or ARAB NEWS to be reporting this.

Can u give us 1 solid reason why they would report this? Stop being so naive.

 

[Mobius]

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[Qaraca]

If there is one thing that will totally tip the scale against Iran it's the entry of Turkish ground forces into the war against Iran.

After the 12 day war an Iranian official stated Israel operated drones out of Azerbaijan with the understanding that an Iranian retaliation against Azerbaijan would trigger Turkish entry into the war.

The idea that Israel operated out of Azerbaijan was laughed at on the internet until recently when the existence of Israeli bases in Iraq and Azerbaijan was leaked.

If you recall, Aliyev made belligerent statements and threats to Iran at the beginning of the 40 day war. He changed his tone after it became clear Iran was not about to fall.

Before the 40 day war Turkey stated their intention to create safe zones inside Iran in the case of a power vacuum in Iran.

I have no doubt Turkey would enter on the side of the US if Iran wobbled or gave NATO an excuse.

No Iranian official ever said such a thing.

On contrary, Ali Larijani said that there was no such evidence.

Iranian SNSC: There is no evidence that Azerbaijan helped Israel during war

There is no evidence that Azerbaijan assisted Israel during the 12-day war, APA reports, citing IRNA

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"Leaked"? Is it anything more than a bunch of claims with zero proof, from a source that you otherwise deem "Zionist"?

Aliyev made statements FOLLOWING an Iranian drone attack on civilian targets in Nakhchivan which injured civilians, saying Azerbaijan would respond. But the matter was resolved in a phone call between Aliyev and Pezeshkian shortly after. That’s some revisionism on your part that "he changed his tone after it became clear Iran was not about to fall", as that change of tone was a matter of few days, at a time when the war was still in early days and in full force.

 

[925boy]

Yep. I don't want to insult the IRI or IRGC, but they are acting like cowards here. Either fight hard rather than waiting for your enemy to degrade your abilities and respond with symbolic nonsense, or abide by the MOU terms which you agreed to.

Remember when Mousavi said Iran has a new offensive military doctrine which means it no longer waits for threats to materialise, but is willing to strike preemptively? What a load of BS that turned out to be. Sadly just the latest in a very long line of similar stories.

I fully understand your point and it makes sense,but the key thing here is where he these recent USA strikes on Iran are actually the restart of the war, or a momentary aggression/retaliation/deterrence attacks /pressure to open the SoH.


Iran might rightfully be waiting for the right signal or intention from US to show it's really back on the war path with Iran before Iran starts offensive military action. If this is a long war there is time.

Which long war did US win? respectfully , the longer this war goes on, the more likely US will lose it, based on its historical performance in longer wars.