Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[VCheng]

I don’t understand why IRGC continues with ‘its you strike then I strike’ mentality. Fill the skies with drones and missiles and confuse the enemy.

Obviously, one must trust that the strategy being pursued by each side is the best possible for them, given that they alone have the complete picture of what is going on, and the resources available, and we do not.

 

[Persian Gulf]

I want the IRGC to destroy a couple of HVTs in the Emirates, Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar and Oman without any excuse.

Destroy it, not damage it. Completely destroy one of their major oil production plants by hitting every critical component of the facility in each country separately. Do this to each of these tiny Sheikhdoms and let oil production drop by a few million barrels per day. Make their suffering permanent.

Iran's GDP growth this year is projected to be -5.5%. If Iran's GDP is shrinking by 5%, those tiny Sheikhdoms should have their GDPs shrink by 10%-15% at least.

The strikes are getting closer to Tehran. They will be striking Tehran again soon.

We are still too passive and our strikes are spread out across too many targets. Concentrated strikes on 1-2 HVTs per day would be much more effective.

For now the only good news is that traffic in the SoH is at low levels while Iran can still export oil. But once the U.S. imposes its naval blockade again, Iran will be in a bad position again. We should act decisively now rather than waiting for that to happen.

 

[ShapurII]

For now the only good news is that traffic in the SoH is at low levels while Iran can still export oil. But once the U.S. imposes its naval blockade again, Iran will be in a bad position again. We should act decisively now rather than waiting for that to happen.

Well, the full half of the glass is that we have already emptied our oil storage capacity and if the US imposes a blockade again, it'll take 2-3 months for our storage to be full again.

The empty half of the glass is that oil prices are hovering around $70-$75 and we need them to rise to at least $120 for the Americans and the Europeans to panic. Long way to get there again.

 

[Abdul q]

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[Master Chief]

Obviously, one must trust that the strategy being pursued by each side is the best possible for them, given that they alone have the complete picture of what is going on, and the resources available, and we do not.

This generalisation makes little sense in practice.

You are saying mistakes (human sourced or otherwise) are impossible in war.

Either belligerent is very much capable of an erroneous decision, or a "blunder", despite being fully informed with relevant intel and instruction from senior command elements.

I see no reason to blindly trust that either party is following and playing out an optimised strategy in this conflict. If one side was truly enjoying such an advantage, the war would have been over by now.

 

[wangdefa]

Wide ranging strikes by the US

I don’t understand why IRGC continues with ‘its you strike then I strike’ mentality. Fill the skies with drones and missiles and confuse the enemy.

The legitimate justification for war is the crucial voice of civilian officials, who can seek support on any international stage. You see, Israel lacks a legitimate reason for war; they can only resort to excuses and unreasonable behavior on the international scene, and what they lose outweighs what they gain.

 

[Hayabusa]

Iran pre emptively struck HIMARS launchers in Kuwait, causing a large number of injuries to U.S. soldiers stationed there

Hopefully some of them joined Lindsey in hell.

Yet one thing to note is the incredible accuracy of the missiles and real time information Iran is receiving. It is one thing to hit facilities, warehouses or in general, a static building. But to hit a mobile platform launching missiles, it's another level.

Iran needs to take it up a notch and start targetting Kuwait and UAE oil facilities. This will quickly force US to tone down on the escalation once the oil prices continue rising.

 

[Persian Gulf]

massive strikes against military, economic, and power infrastructure throughout Iran by the US, after the US struck bridges and other vital infrastructure in recent days

IRGC yet to respond as it takes the pummelling for hours like a good compliant / asleep target willing to let the US evacuate its bases and safely return its jets before it decides to respond several hours later, despite knowing US strikes are coming at a similar time every day, and yet doing the same thing every time.

 

[Persian Gulf]

US strikes have not stopped for more than 2 hours, there are massive power outages across large areas of Iran

and still the IRGC (let alone the useless government) has absolutely nothing to say or do.

 

[RescueRanger]

Air Raid Interceptions reported Tel Aviv Airspace:



Please await official clarification or update.

 

[ShapurII]

massive strikes against military, economic, and power infrastructure throughout Iran by the US, after the US struck bridges and other vital infrastructure in recent days

IRGC yet to respond as it takes the pummelling for hours like a good compliant / asleep target willing to let the US evacuate its bases and safely return its jets before it decides to respond several hours later, despite knowing US strikes are coming at a similar time every day, and yet doing the same thing every time.

All we can do is hit the infrastructure of Arab states in the Persian Gulf in response to this. And I think the IRGC is reserving that option for when the US decides to overthrow the system again, like in the first weeks of the war.

This is why Iran giving up on nuclear deterrence was the stupidest idea ever. What can Iran do if tomorrow the US decides to hit all bridges, railways and power plants? Damage a couple of places in neighboring countries only? :/

 

[OldTwilight]

All we can do is hit the infrastructure of Arab states in the Persian Gulf in response to this. And I think the IRGC is reserving that option for when the US decides to overthrow the system again, like in the first weeks of the war.

This is why Iran giving up on nuclear deterrence was the stupidest idea ever. What can Iran do if tomorrow the US decides to hit all bridges, railways and power plants? Damage a couple of places in neighboring countries only? :/

For how many years people like me told this , you can't be anti American and none nuclear power at same time

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

 

[Meengla]

No sir, he is a sensible gentleman who is a veteran of this forum, unlike many others who would certainly fit neatly into your apt defintion. He spoke his mind, as we all have in recent weeks, as tensions are suddenly quite high again.

Yes, he is more sensible that others here who downvote me for challenging their stupid love for the great imprisoned 'Khan'. But his post crossed some lines: He was basically telling the Iranians not to listen to the 'corrupt' Pakistani govt as if the Iranians are some babes in the woods to be manipulated by Pakistan. As you said in your post, Pakistan has a very delicate role to play in this war and for them to come charging down on Pakistan in front of the world was too much for me to let go of!

These RSPB (Reza Shah Pahlavi Brigade) of Pakistan are so determined by their great love for the stupid 'Khan' that they were saying--and yes, one of them with whom I mostly agree about this war on Iran--was also saying Pakistan joining the Gaza Peace group to disarm the Palestinians. Their intention is one and one only: Somehow salvage quite possibly the most stupid leader in Pakistan's entire history and if it takes to tarnish Pakistan's image in front of the world they that's fine by them!