Watandar
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America, Israel and their GCC enablers are the ones responsible for this war.
Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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Shags101
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pretty sure that was what was in the surface I think Iran saw there was no real deal coming to them no sanctions relief no funds just drag this out till after midterms kind of thing and than commit to bombing Iran again war was inevitable but let’s be honest Iran didn’t start this Israel and trump started this with Arab “leaders” backing it or having no power or will to stop their countries from being used as staging grounds
Shags101
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Hey jinx I saw it after you posted it
Abdul q
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Some event timelines are interesting … Pakistan launches operation against talis in Afghanistan before the start of this war and now as we started operations in balochistan now iran has another one… maybe coincidence
Shags101
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Coincidence I think Pakistan is constantly hitting terrorists or whatever it kind of shows you as tough as Pakistan military may be they seem to have endless issues with conflicts small and big
PK781
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i have a feeling the small agreement/understanding between iran and oman fell thru and IRGC decided to make itself felt. Then they attacked the vessels/tankers and those belonged to the Arabs i think. Not sure if it was the best move but iran/irgc want the toll money from SOH.
too late now to fix things
Meengla
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Trita Parsi said that 'most' Arab countries didn't want to start this war. Why the EFF would they?! I'd say not just most: 'all' because it would be counter productive to their own interests. But if they resisted Washington then they had seen what happened to the hundreds of billions of $$ of the Russian assets frozen, yachts grabbed, harsh sanctioned imposed once Russia invaded Ukraine.
I had posted a video of Alex Krainer a few days ago where he talked about the conundrum the rich Arab countries face. This forum seems to dismiss their leaders are 'corrupt', or 'cowardly' blah blah but the leaders are responsible for the lives of their own citizens.
Watandar
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You cannot host American bases, provide airspace and ports, share radar and intelligence information and participate in multiple American wars in the region and then say "we never wanted this war". The GCC absolutely wanted this war and were in bed with the Israelis in selling it to Trump the moron. For the Zios, it was the logical next step after Iraq, Syria, Palestine, Yemen and Lebanon.
I also respect Trita Parsi but nobody is correct in everything. I suspect Trita's profile has risen enough that he was looking for new sponsors for his thinktank with those statements.
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Meengla
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No, the GCC Arabs have been powerless. They may have their won Epstein Files and, above all, fear Mossad Assasinations and freezing of their assets. They have hosted the Americans as part of decades old living under the American security umbrella but that doesn't mean they wanted this war. Also, while the Iran of today maybe a bit retrenching, the Iran right after 1979 was into an aggressive geopolitical regional posture and so not too hard to think why the regional countries went for the American security umbrella. Even Pakistan in the 1980s started to feel some effects of the 1979 Iranian revolution.
Anyway, let's ponder a few things worth noting: Why is Saudi Arabia missing from the recent discourse, along with the Saudi (uninvited) participation in the funeral of the Ayatollah. Why is there more and more talk of the so-called STEP alliance? (Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan)? Things are happening behind the scene. Much happening.
Shags101
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Why has Trump targeted civilian vessels that didn’t obey what he said in waters far away from America also I believe they killed a few Indians in the last attack iran laid out a few simple rules you either play by the rules or you think your above them
Shags101
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No a few wanted this but only a few because they really believed this was going to be a quick war like Venezuela Iranians are going to surrender honestly let’s be honest it was UAE and Saudi Arabia the others had to fall in line or else
BigMela2onin
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You don't get it when the US bombs civilians and breaks ceasefires at will, it is good. When Iran fights back, it is bad.
