Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[PakAl]

Iran never had a strategy for its nuclear program. Our nuclear program made zero sense both for civilian and military purposes. It was a useless, money sucking pit that put Iran at risk for zero return.

The sole purpose of enriching uranium to 60% was to use it as a bargaining chip for JCPOA II. I had already thoroughly criticized this stupid policy when Iran announced it years ago after Raeesi took the office. A stupid, useless move. The 60% enrichment added very little to Iran's nuclear capabilities and it ended in disaster, like all other IR policies regarding our nuclear program.

Nuclear program cost Iranian economy trillions in sanctions, with very less benefit in nuclear energy. I too cannot understand the policy. Iran has plenty of oil gas resources. The Iranian regime also knew from what happened in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya that their turn will be next but still failed to produce nukes, they were the perfect defense against Usa Israeli attack. I personally do not think Israel will forgive Iran, they want the regime gone and so do the Arabs GCC despite acting all sweet on the media, for Israel Iran is a major threat to their dominance in the middleeast, they will remove all threats or any threat that may emerge in 30 years time, thats how they think.

 

[PakAl]

this is the hole in our decision makers plan

proably they think USA won't risk boot on grounds which is wrong as they previously though USA won't target SL in first hour of war ...

IMO USA is preparing for land invasion

Before any invasion Usa will make sure Iranian armed forces power is degraded.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Nuclear program cost Iranian economy trillions in sanctions, with very less benefit in nuclear energy. I too cannot understand the policy. Iran has plenty of oil gas resources. The Iranian regime also knew from what happened in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya that their turn will be next but still failed to produce nukes, they were the perfect defense against Usa Israeli attack. I personally do not think Israel will forgive Iran, they want the regime gone and so do the Arabs GCC despite acting all sweet on the media, for Israel Iran is a major threat to their dominance in the middleeast, they will remove all threats or any threat that may emerge in 30 years time, thats how they think.

IF Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Lebanon had nuclear weapons they wouldn't turn into failed states

 

[PakAl]

Despite promising infrastructure for infrastructure strikes, the IRI is currently too weak and cowardly to enforce this threat.

Do you not think maybe they are unable to do it. Usa has dropped 16000 bombs on Iran, they are slowly dismantling Iranian military assets.

 

[Ali_Baba]

No, the GCC Arabs have been powerless. They may have their won Epstein Files and, above all, fear Mossad Assasinations and freezing of their assets. They have hosted the Americans as part of decades old living under the American security umbrella but that doesn't mean they wanted this war.
Also, while the Iran of today maybe a bit retrenching, the Iran right after 1979 was into an aggressive geopolitical regional posture and so not too hard to think why the regional countries went for the American security umbrella. Even Pakistan in the 1980s started to feel some effects of the 1979 Iranian revolution.

Anyway, let's ponder a few things worth noting: Why is Saudi Arabia missing from the recent discourse, along with the Saudi (uninvited) participation in the funeral of the Ayatollah. Why is there more and more talk of the so-called STEP alliance? (Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan)? Things are happening behind the scene. Much happening.

i think that had the PGCC Arabs not spent time "intercepting" Iranian Missiles, drones heading towards American equipment and forces, then I would have said that they are not active participants, but they put up a defensive shield ( and still continue to do so even now), under which the Americans were and are free to operate from their lands and bases with full local protection in attacking Iran from.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Had the PGCC Arabs not spent time "intercepting" Iranian Missiles, drones heading towards American equipment and forces, then I would have said that they are not active participants, but they put up a defensive shield, under which the Americans were free to operate from their lands and bases with full local protection in attacking Iran.

Very sharp & clear

+ 1

 

[Hayabusa]

Iranian Mahan plane successfully landed at Hodeidah airport, Yemen

Mahan Air flight landing in al-Hodeidah International Airport is quite a big of a deal. It basically dismisses the decade long air blockade by Saudi Arabia. This shifts the balance of power and proves the coalition doesn't have absolute air dominance anymore.

Iran also shows that it can establish a direct air corridor right next to the Red Sea chokepoint and this may change the chess game in that region for logistics and weapons supplies.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Mahan Air flight landing in Sana'a is quite a big of a deal. It basically dismisses the decade long air blockade by Saudi Arabia. This shifts the balance of power and proves the coalition doesn't have absolute air dominance anymore.

Iran also shows that it can establish a direct air corridor right next to the Red Sea chokepoint and this may change the chess game in that region for logistics and weapons supplies.

Landed in Hodeidah not Sana’a

Nonetheless, stupid Saudis will face ballistic missile strikes for no reason now

 

[Persian Gulf]

Yemen and Saudi Arabia should settle their disputes later. There must not be conflict between them. There can be a chain reaction of hostilities in that case and only Israel will benefit as their dream will come true then! And who knows what kind of False Flags and spies/turn coats they are already using to cause conflicts between regional countries.

Look at NY Times's lead story right now: Israelis were even trying to use a former Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for their goals!

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/13/us/politics/israel-mahmoud-ahmadinejad-iran.html

It is Saudi Arabia who bombed Sana’a’s airport today.

And Israel is placing a lot of fake stories in the media.

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Immortals]

 

[VCheng]

Before any invasion Usa will make sure Iranian armed forces power is degraded.

There is no need to invade. There just needs to be an understanding about certain policies, that is all that is needed for peace in the region.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Meengla]

i think that had the PGCC Arabs not spent time "intercepting" Iranian Missiles, drones heading towards American equipment and forces, then I would have said that they are not active participants, but they put up a defensive shield ( and still continue to do so even now), under which the Americans were and are free to operate from their lands and bases with full local protection in attacking Iran from.

I see zero value in the Gulf countries wanting a US attack on Iran. On the contrary, the very future of some of those statelets is in grave danger as a result of this war. The war games by even Pentagon from years ago suggested Iran would not be a cake walk and that has been proven true. The Gulf countries were not ignorant of those war games--even this forum talked about it, IIRC.
As for the interceptors: Who is operating them in those countries? Are they themselves calling the shots or have the American 'trainers' doing the actual work? And why would those missiles falling into their hotels not be intercepted? Who among them has the geopolitical will to defy the US? Can their leadership risk assassinations by Mossad? Can they risk their huge assets frozen in an instant? As I said, Alex Krainer's video I posted a few days ago said the huge dilemma those countries face. But logically, a war would not be they wanted and they want to get done with the hostilities asap. Well, except the UAE, which is a different beast.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

No easy about it, they just bombed Yemen in a pathetic failed attempt to prevent an Iranian civilian plane from landing in Sana’a.

They declared war on Yemen for nothing, since the plane landed safely in Hodeidah anyway.

They should expand the slogan to "al la'nat al Saud"