Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

I don't know why but people still cheat themselves from something obvious to something more hopeful... pragmatic... to plain delusional.
MoU has gone the path of JCPOA... and years of negotiations. For those who don't remember the Russian Ukraine has it's own genesis in Minsk 1 and Minsk 2... where Merkel was on record in saying that it was a deliberate attempt to buy time.
 
Watandar said:
Maybe. I think the Omani route attempts show that the US never intended to implement the MoU in spirit and was merely using all the negotiations and documents process to weaken Iran and re-arm itself. That follows the same pattern we saw last year and this year where the US and Israel attacked during negotiations. Trump is corrupt compromised and unstable.

I am now thinking this whole conflict ends only when the US runs out of precision weapons and interceptors.
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I know US intentions cannot be trusted. However, as ceasefire was just announced and 60 days period had started and negotiations were going on. So Iran could have given a warning to all commercial shipping to use its route if Iran is so persistent on it. If few ships pass through omani route then not a big deal. Iran could have announced that any more ships passing through omani route will be shot at. The advance clear warning would have prevented this incident.

If US would not have lifted sanctions or done other things as MoU mentioned then Iran could always shut down the strait. But Iran had to give some time for negotiations.

Many people here are saying that agreements with US means horseshit. Then why you do it at first place? Why wasted time for negotiators too? Should have told in advance. We all know, Israel started this war and it do not want the war to end. It wants US and Iran to keep fighting. So Iran should do its best to not let Israel's plan go on. How clever, they started the war and now they quietly out of war and enjoying US/Iran war with popcorns.
 
Magi said:
Not surprising that vultures start to gather. Iran's performance indicates it is time for them to do so.
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World is a rootless jungle but people like pezeshkian live in lala land

He is acting against Qur’an and Nahjolbaqah which he used to read during presidential election
 
tsunset said:
If Iran can't develop nukes, at least start a chemical and bacteriological weapon program

Same efficacity as nukes and easier to make, requires no big facility and can kill even more people than nukes
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The decision to not build nukes or other WMD has always been a religious and political decision, not a technical one.
 
Professor Jiang said:
Will you accept paying the Americans a 20% toll versus a 1-2% toll that the Iranians are asking for?

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Europe accepted buy expensive LNG from USA instead Russia cheap natural gas.

So I wouldn't be surprised

Don't try argue with maths, when decisions are taken by corrupt bribed high rankings and dumb emotionally handled low rankings. It's money of bribes, and emotions for nutjobs what matters.
 
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The tone of his tweets often reflect the trajectory of the war. Sometimes with delay, granted. I would not laugh this off. Things do not look good for Iran this round.
 
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Iran’s armed forces say ‘will not allow the US to interfere’ in Hormuz​

The unified command of Iran’s armed forces has warned the US against trying to intervene in the Strait of Hormuz and threatened attacks against those who collaborate with Washington.

“We do not and will not allow the United States to interfere in the management of the Strait of Hormuz,” said Ebrahim Zolfaghari, spokesman for the Khatam al-Anbiya Central Headquarters, in comments carried by state broadcaster IRIB.

Iranian forces will “deal severely with any disruption and insecurity” outside Tehran’s designated route.

“Any cooperation with the United States and logistical support for that country’s aggressor army will be considered a war against Iran’s sovereignty and national security,” Zolfaghari said, adding the war could “engulf all the countries in the region”.
 
Persian Gulf said:
Trump announces U.S. naval blockade on Iran is back

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Very predictable
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Won’t hold up in any court let alone reality. US cannot charge on a waterway it has no claims over.

What ship is going to pay 20% of its cargo value to cross? Where is the margin for the seller let alone ship operator?

So US is charging 20x what Iran was charging. Hilarious.

It’s clear Trump is running out of ideas and is becoming desperate. When Trump isn’t desperate and thinks he has the cards he is actually quiet (see lead up to Iran war and pulling out of JCPOA)
 
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In addition to providing more evidence that his brain is Swiss cheese, has Trump now officially been more complimentary about Sayyed Khamenei than he has been about Reza Pahlavi?
 
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