Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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VCheng said:
My post was crystal clear. The brilliance of a strategy can only be judged by the results it delivers.
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You selectively use a single sentence from my post and try to convey a cryptic message that doesn't make sense. Let's just leave it at that because I have no energy to argue with you.
 
K2RULEZ said:
You selectively use a single sentence from my post and try to convey a cryptic message that doesn't make sense.
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This makes perfect sense:

The brilliance of a strategy can only be judged by the results it delivers.
 
BananaRepublic said:
Iran needs to call Islamabad.

The Pakistani delegation is crucial to Iran stretching this out.

Whilst I was banned I saw some idiots mock Pakistan’s negotiating role!!!

I was itching to call them idiots!!

Although this will no doubt upset @Musings 🤣

Trump is the last of the Epstein presidents.

Future presidents won’t be as pliant.
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Even though Iran did call, Pakistan is simply not interested in acting as a mediator this time around. Unless something huge changes, Pakistan will not be steping in to broker a ceasefire. This is very clear from how quiet and indifferent Pakistan's government has been following this latest escalation between Iran and the US.

Ultimately, if the IRGC wants to fight, they should just go ahead and fight to their heart's content. It is sad, but it seems like pride and political egos are much more important to them than actual human lives.
 
Just when we thought it was all over

Isn’t Iran running out of targets ?

All US bases have been hit

US has withdrawn all aircraft to beyond Irans borders

Even refuelling in Bulgaria and Romania

And bombers are taking off from UK

Iran has to find juicy targets
 
F.O.X said:
Even though Iran did call, Pakistan is simply not interested in acting as a mediator this time around. Unless something huge changes, Pakistan will not be steping in to broker a ceasefire. This is very clear from how quiet and indifferent Pakistan's government has been following this latest escalation between Iran and the US.

Ultimately, if the IRGC wants to fight, they should just go ahead and fight to their heart's content. It is sad, but it seems like pride and political egos are much more important to them than actual human lives.
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Iran never asked for Pakistan to be the mediator. The Pakistani delegation was defacto delivering the Chinese position. In legal terms , they were given agency by the Chinese to project the Chinese position.

If Trump admin was smart , which they are not , they would accept the chaos created will end in one way or another. Iranina toll system . The system can absorb the $2 million per ship . But oh no the low IQ egomaniac, is mad why he didn’t think of it in the first place and wants 20%.
 
BananaRepublic said:
Iran doesn’t benefit from escalation.

Iran benefits from attrition.
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Right from the start the U.S is a superpower, it has the capabilities and resources of a superpower

Iran was always going to have to ABSORB the damage

It has however, identified a way to recoup hundreds of billions over time by setting up tolls on the Hormuz and Iran must not back down on this,

The U.S and Jews know, if Iran holds out and enforces a toll, iran can transform itself




Irans biggest weapon is not missiles or drones or anything else, it's the ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES of what's happening

The effect on U.S debt and bonds

The follow on issues from that


As long as Iran can enforce a blockade and put the GCC under threat and keep hitting U.S targets then the U.S is in big big trouble

Not because of Iranian weapons, but because continued war slowly but surely damages the world economy and this then devastates the u.s economy



You will find the U.S trying to force iran to the negotiating table, via bomb's and hoping Iran concedes to its demands

If iran doesn't, then iran holds all the cards and slowly enforce it's control across the Hormuz and push the u.s out as the GCC will be forced to cut a deal with Iran
 
F.O.X said:
Even though Iran did call, Pakistan is simply not interested in acting as a mediator this time around. Unless something huge changes, Pakistan will not be steping in to broker a ceasefire. This is very clear from how quiet and indifferent Pakistan's government has been following this latest escalation between Iran and the US.

Ultimately, if the IRGC wants to fight, they should just go ahead and fight to their heart's content. It is sad, but it seems like pride and political egos are much more important to them than actual human lives.
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I hope Pakistan stays away this time round as it has really become a FUBAR mess. To be fair to Iran, it was Tel Aviv that spoiled the arrangement and they will continue to do so to any agreement brokered by any 3rd party.

We are reduced now to two rival cartels fighting for control of resources and bullying small regional players with protection racketeering.
 
Aziqbal said:
Just when we thought it was all over

Isn’t Iran running out of targets ?

All US bases have been hit

US has withdrawn all aircraft to beyond Irans borders

Even refuelling in Bulgaria and Romania

And bombers are taking off from UK

Iran has to find juicy targets
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With respect what are you even talking about US Aircraft have been taking off from Israel and drones from Jordan for the past 3 days.
 
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