Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[VCheng]

Not when they're fake sheikhdoms and slaves of the west.

So what happens if the other side makes the same argument against Iran as being a fake theocracy and hence illegitimate? See, others can play the same game too.

 

[BHAN85]

Military, economic or technological threats are not the only threats Iran is the enemy of Israel and Israel controlled US. There is an important factor people remove from the equation which plays a crucial role in the heads of US and Israeli leaders namely, ideology. The Zionist entity and Christo-Zionists in US believe in the destruction of Iran to establish the greater Israel and return of Messiah. They are trying to fulfill a prophecy by dividing and destroying Iran. Friend or Foe, they will go for it.

• Destruction of military strength: “I will break the bow of Elam, the foremost of their might” (Jeremiah 49:35), symbolizing the collapse of Elam’s military power
• Scattering of the people: The prophecy states that Elam’s exiles will be dispersed to all nations, indicating a comprehensive exile (Jeremiah 49:36)
• Overthrow of leadership: God declares He will destroy the king and princes and set His throne in Elam, emphasizing divine authority over human rulers (Jeremiah 49:37–38)

They believe the current Iran is a continuation of the old Elam and they want to destroy it.

Christian Zionists are concerned about gog and Magog prophecies, but those prophecies are not related to Iran, it's about Russia invading Israel.

By the other side, a Persian king, Cyrus the great, it's the only gentile called anointed one in Bible, who freed Jewish people from Babylon captivity.

I know religion topics are not allowed here.
But some people can take advantage of Jewish and Christian prophecies to create war narratives. So it's good to know a minimum about it.

 

[Flotilla]

So the other coastal states to the same body of water have no rights?

Many would vehemently disagree. Making such a claim will simply not work, no matter how often repeated.

They have.

But they decided to create with US a South corridor that is just the countrary, a way to deny iranians rights.

Again you're manipulating.

 

[OldTwilight]

Well , attacking infrastructures is easy , we should demolish their military infrastructures for now

 

[RescueRanger]

Direction	Traffic Percentage	Destination
8 Inbound	████████░░ (44%)	Cangjie, Starway, Ascanios, etc.
10 Outbound	██████████ (56%)	Cangjie, Starway, Ascanios, etc

Table extracted from ship finder and Claude used to prepare table;


Data source used: https://www.shipfinder.com/special/hormuz

 

[Nawnaw1]

So what happens if the other side makes the same argument against Iran as being a fake theocracy and hence illegitimate? See, others can play the same game too.

The ruling class of a country derives legitimacy from being put there by another power, versus grabbing power and withstanding the heaviest of possible outside pressures for 50 years running. There is your answer.

 

[RescueRanger]

Iranian VIP Flight now airborne:

 

[VCheng]

But they decided to create with US a South corridor that is just the countrary, a way to deny iranians rights.

What "rights" does Iran have within Omani coastal waters?

 

[RescueRanger]

Callsign CNV5476 |HEX: AE04D& | Boeing C-40A Clipper | tail number 165829 - Currently enroute to Bahrain.

The C-40A clipper is essentially a flying bus used by the US Navy to move troops around.

 

[VCheng]

The ruling class of a country derives legitimacy from being put there by another power, versus grabbing power and withstanding the heaviest of possible outside pressures for 50 years running. There is your answer.

Not much of an answer there, Sir.

A power grab is a power grab. Legitimacy only derives from support of the people. In this regard, your argument applies equally to just about all the states in the region.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

What "rights" does Iran have within Omani coastal waters?

Right of self defence, managing and controlling the strait up to Emirati and Omani coast. Iran never ratified UNCLOS. Iran got attacked with backing of PGCC and because of that Iran has the right to expand its control in Persian Gulf, for its security. If I had a say I would conquer Qatari and Kuwaiti energyfields in addition.

 

[GWXP]

Ironically Trump who talked a lot about keeping US out of wars while criticizing Bush and Obama for their foreign interventions, himself killed Qasem Soleimani, captured Maduro, bombed the Houthis, Nigeria, Somalia and started the Iran war.

The guy is really crazy and is out of his mind and is a real incompetent idiot.

 

[Nawnaw1]

Not much of an answer there, Sir.

A power grab is a power grab. Legitimacy only derives from support of the people. In this regard, your argument applies equally to just about all the states in the region.

I am not talking about the strait or the persian gulf. I'm talking about the legitimacy of a government. Look at Pakista, a ruling military dictatorship that just, at the press of a button by the US, nullified the wish of the people by imprisoning Khan. That's not a legitimate government. Or whatever the PCGG countries do that is against their own interest. Who tells the Iranian government what to do?

 

[VCheng]

Iran has the right to expand its control in Persian Gulf, for its security.

Well, the best of luck in achieving such a righteous goal! Please show the world how Iran will get this done. The time seems to be right for doing that.

 

[VCheng]

Who tells the Iranian government what to do?

The IRGC and the reigning Ayatollah, perhaps? Please correct me if I am wrong here. Thanks.