Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

A ground invasion is definitely a possibility. It makes complete sense, and I was among those who believed the Americans will attempt an invasion.

Many people here are unaware that Iran's oil fields are actually quite concentrated. The sheer size of the country leads some to think that resources are distributed throughout Iran. In reality, Iranian oil fields are primarily located in the Khuzestan Basin, close to the Iraqi border. Even capturing just a portion of these fields would not only cover the expenses of the war for US and Israel but also transform it into a highly paying and profitable endeavor.
I don't think so. Even if US can defeat whatever troops they have until they arrive to oil fields there will be a much bigger problem. Whatever short range missile and drones will fall over them from well protected áreas inside the country.
And even if US can sustain this high damage It would be the end of Trump politically and he loves himself much more than his own country.
 
These demilitarized roaches from Europe have no militaries or other coercive capabilities.

What Germany can do with its military of 179.000 troops, 150 tanks, 100 Taurus missiles, couple of vessels and lack of power projection capabilities?

How Iran treats Germany? In 2011 Iran at first allowed Angela Merkels plane to pass over its airspace but then denied passage forcing her plane to make circles over Turkey.

This is how Iran treats Japan:

On June 13, 2019, Shinzo Abe met with Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in Tehran. It was a historic trip—the first by a sitting Japanese prime minister to Iran in over 40 years
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And the same day when Abe was talking with Khamenei, Iran hit Japanese oil tankers in the Gulf.
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Iran treats Gulf Arabs in the same way - this is how Saudi Arabia will look like if Trump attacks Iran's electricity infrastructure.
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Iran speaks equally only with the likes of US, China, Russia.

Regardless of what the GCC countries would look like, what is certain that Iran will be annihilated. And GCC will be able to rebuild very quickly, Iran will not be able to do so.

And thus I wonder why insanity in Iran prevails, and why they continue to overplay their hand which will be cut off very soon if this continues.
 
I agree. Hitting civilian infraestructure It is a clear symbol of desperation. They have nothing more to hit so they change their strategy to israelí one of burnt land.
Is Iran NOT hitting civilian cargo ships in the strait of Hormuz????? What is the difference then?
 
European and German naval assets are steadily entering the picture in the Persian Gulf, with Germany's minesweeper Fulda and support ship Mosel already transiting toward the region alongside British, French, Italian, and Dutch contributions. these deployments signal a serious multinational effort to secure the Strait of Hormuz through mine clearing and freedom of navigation operations. If the US and its allies succeed in keeping the strait reliably open by force when necessary, Iran risks losing nearly all the strategic leverage it gained during the war. Tehran’s ability to threaten closure had been its strongest card, disrupting global energy flows and bolstering its negotiating position but a secured Hormuz would neutralize that threat, restore market driven oil exports under international oversight, and likely leave Iran economically weaker and more isolated than before the conflict began.

They all have sensed that major work is done already by the US. This time its going to be NATO + US. Its already started as NATO air refuelers are getting more active lately.

MoU is dead. This time, they are severely degrading Iran's abilities and will seek a new agreement where Iran would not be offered anything substantial. The last MoU was considered a victory for Iran. But even then some hardliner Iranians were not happy, now all hardliner Iranians should be very happy they got the resumed war what they wanted.
 
Mine clearance operations are actually underway, mine sweepers don't operate on their own they have escort ships such as destroyers and command ships.

The US have also been conducting mine clearing operations:

I could be wrong but no destroyers are operating within the SOH they are mostly off the Omani coast or in the Arabian sea. The mine sweepers being used are autonomous I dont think either the British or the Germans have autonomous minesweepers in the area. Add to that it was reported that the Germans and Brits wont be using them under war conditions.
 
I agree. Hitting civilian infraestructure It is a clear symbol of desperation. They have nothing more to hit so they change their strategy to israelí one of burnt land.
US is following the zionist strategy of collective punishment. They want to bring the government down this way. But this has usually failed and only real way of achieving that is ground troops.
 
Is Iran NOT hitting civilian cargo ships in the strait of Hormuz????? What is the difference then?
Its the same as US warships hitting any tankers or ships heading for Iran - a move to try and control the SOH. A ship cant be classified as "civilian infrastructure" but it is a civilian vessel.
 
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Looks like the news spread by some members regarding UAE buying off their name from the list of countries being attacked by IR was fabricated...
 
I agree. Hitting civilian infraestructure It is a clear symbol of desperation. They have nothing more to hit so they change their strategy to israelí one of burnt land.
They have hit 6 bridges last night. They are preparing for a ground invasion clearly.
 
Regardless of what the GCC countries would look like, what is certain that Iran will be annihilated. And GCC will be able to rebuild very quickly, Iran will not be able to do so.

And thus I wonder why insanity in Iran prevails, and why they continue to overplay their hand which will be cut off very soon if this continues.

I was in UAE during this war for work. I have seen with my own eyes busiest roads and life as normal and THAAD / Patriots interception sounds as well and sometimes flashes in skies as well. People had become used to with that. The missile shield is literally very effective. So, the point is GCC has that missile protection which Iran lacks.

Also earlier in the war, Iran had thousands of missiles and it can really overwhelm air defenses. Now its being sensed by NATO, by GCC that Iran's present missile strength is only shadow of its former self.

I only fear that not only NATO would join but there's a chance that even GCC could join once Iran's ability to hit back is depleted. Iran was not a strong military or technological power. It had won the first phase of war only due to its geography (SOH which passed under its nose). Iran should not have given any excuse during ceasefire for the war to resume. But Iran did hit commercial ships. Also Iran should not have asked for too much in MoU like 300 billion dollar reconstruction stuff and likes. They should understand US would not give even a dime. If Iran would have agreed to manageable demands / easy to accept for Trump then this war would be over by now. Trump wanted this war to be over before mid-term but with such a MoU and on top Iran forcing that it would be sole authority to manage SOH then Trump had really no other choice but to finish the job.
 
Can we confirmation on this from Pakistani bros ? Or is it another Zio psy ops
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Bro we are having some very serious problems in two of our provinces! We aint losing our more soldiers for Iran or Saudia or US.

This is just a kinky fantasy of a certain sect.
 
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Nothing is bit off, UAE got pounded last night heavily. Ofcourse only US bases and not UAE interests like last time.


"Got Pounded" LMAO!

Oh wow! 2 targets hit versus 300+ in last few days in Iran. Do the math genius.

2 sheds being hit is not called "got pounded". Its not even a scratch.
 

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