Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Hayabusa]

Jordan's air defences degraded will make it easier for Iran to strike Israel after this. The writings are also on the wall of an Israel participation soon.

 

[Mav3rick]

Ever heard of geocentrism?
If you want to consider a worldview according to Pakistan and put it in Iranian shoes... then have Pakistan's top General Shareef killed unprovoked while visiting another country on a diplomatic mission. Then while negotiating a peace deal get it's Prime Minister killed simultaneously with COAS... and top leadership of the country...
Understand what rogue means!!!

Might makes right and if Iran doesn't pull it for itself... no one will pull for Iran...

In fact, it would be for the first time in generations this region will see freedom.

I can relate to Iran's situation, and I agree 100% that whatever has happened to Iran has been illegal, inhumane and infact terrorism. Just like what was done to Palestine, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon etc.

Having said the above, was Pakistan responsible in any way? Is Pakistan a participant or combatant in the war? Is Pakistan supporting one side or the other? Are Iranian actions directly effecting Pakistan? My question is simple, should Iran cause inconvenience to countries which have got nothing to do with this war? Can Iran’s actions be justified if it is destabilizing innocent 3rd parties? What is then the difference between Iran and the US? Both are doing whatever they can to violate international laws and cause terrorism.

Iran was baited civilian ships with turned off transponders to locate them, expose it's ISR for US targeting. There are two choices and both are wrong...

A non complying ship that could be a security threat or one that is actively undermining Iranian authority in times of war.

Put Pakistan there again... what you want Iran to do is, capitulate. And it is not complying with your world view.

I am sure Iran could have allowed 3 ships to leave the area, even if their transponders were switched off, as long as they remained a safe distance away from Iran; were no threat as they were all Civilian Ships and since they were trying to leave the area. There was no threat, not even perceived. Iran simply said that these Vessels were not following the route or directions issued by Iran.

Matter of the fact is that Iran could have just as easily sit back, relax and look forward to a long lasting deal with the larger international community supporting it. But it decided to ruin everything instead.

 

[retaxis]

Iraq may explode into civil war soon

Trump gave Iraq pm ultimatum to disarm Shia paramilitary groups. Otherwise Iraq will face same sanctions as Iran.

If Iraq army attack Shia paramilitary that would free up Iraqi Kurds to do campaign with usa air support in Iran.

Trump working hard behind the scenes to destroy middle east

 

[Mav3rick]

So sorry por Pakistán. And remember right now there are other ships transiting vía Straits of Hormuz with no problem. If they choose the approved corridor in the MOU IRGC.

I know It is nothing related to Pakistán. But if US fools at first day the MOU and Kuwait, Bahrein, Emirates, Qataris and saudis are allowing US to hit Irán, they must hold fast Straits of Hormuz and hit them back hard.

Everybody prefers peace but not a Lebanon style one. If they just make temporary truces, war to the end.

I think Iran has imposed a total blockade and no vessels are allowed. If Pakistan bound ships can move freely, then I have no basis for any complain.

 

[Hayabusa]

I can relate to Iran's situation, and I agree 100% that whatever has happened to Iran has been illegal, inhumane and infact terrorism. Just like what was done to Palestine, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon etc.

Having said the above, was Pakistan responsible in any way? Is Pakistan a participant or combatant in the war? Is Pakistan supporting one side or the other? Are Iranian actions directly effecting Pakistan? My question is simple, should Iran cause inconvenience to countries which have got nothing to do with this war? Can Iran’s actions be justified if it is destabilizing innocent 3rd parties? What is then the difference between Iran and the US? Both are doing whatever they can to violate international laws and cause terrorism.


I am sure Iran could have allowed 3 ships to leave the area, even if their transponders were switched off, as long as they remained a safe distance away from Iran; were no threat as they were all Civilian Ships and since they were trying to leave the area. There was no threat, not even perceived. Iran simply said that these Vessels were not following the route or directions issued by Iran.

Matter of the fact is that Iran could have just as easily sit back, relax and look forward to a long lasting deal with the larger international community supporting it. But it decided to ruin everything instead.

The issue with this post of yours, is trusting that Trump will honour his end of the deal.

 

[BananaRepublic]

I don't know where is Mojhtaba, but I know a color revolution in Iran has been proved as impossible for everyone with eyes in the face last months.

Colour revolution ISNT possible in Iran because the Shiah Mullahs are anti west and USA.

Whereas the Sunni mullahs are pro west and pro USA especially the wahabi types.

Which makes Iran the only Muslim country where a colour revolution is impossible.

In South Asia we have colour revolutions every decade.

In Turkey it almost succeeded and probably next one will succeed.

 

[Mav3rick]

The issue with this post of yours, is trusting that Trump will honour his end of the deal.

We should give him an opportunity, should we not? He is a businessman, he will not invest in a long war, and neither will the American public. Trump needs to get out of the war on a high, as soon as he gets it, he will get out. Better that it ends with a deal where Iran is able to trade it's good, especially oil and gas.

 

[maverick]

We should use cheap drone like mohaner 4 series and hunt down USA HIMaRS in Kuwait and Bahrain as well.

This just become about patient and resolve....

Although it is very hard but people accepted that we are in war ...

If attack on Jordan, Kuwait and Bahrain continued like this then it wont be long that the people will rise against their Kings and rulers and they ahve to run towards Europe and US.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Strategically Iran should not fall into another ceasefire until it has really pushed the strategic reserves to empty. That will limit Trumps ability to restart a war again, right now he has a "buffer" he thinks he can use to get things to his advantage and that buffer needs to be removed.

Yep!

Given the escalation by Trump - this is the only course.

Any calls from the Pakistani mediators should be cut off unless USA arbitrarily surrenders to the following first:

1. SoH being the sole asset of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

2. Reparations to be paid in full by USA and its Pigs.

3. Iran retains full control of its defence strategy e.g. ability to develop ballistic missiles as it sees fit.

4. Full and immediate release of all assets

5. Full lifting of all sanctions

 

[BananaRepublic]

If attack on Jordan, Kuwait and Bahrain continued like this then it wont be long that the people will rise against their Kings and rulers and they ahve to run towards Europe and US.

Ordinary Muslims (regardless of sect) don’t seem upset at Iran.

They are firmly blaming their rulers.

Especially because Iran hasn’t bombed schools and hospitals like USA and its Arab allies.

 

[Flotilla]

I think Iran has imposed a total blockade and no vessels are allowed. If Pakistan bound ships can move freely, then I have no basis for any complain.

Some days before there were some ships transiting Straits of Hormuz vía center corridor Iranian protected.

But if I am wrong, just hope war finishes soon. Nobody wants the war. This was started long time ago by Trump and just killing US soldiers and inflicting pain to the wallets of US taxpayers will end the war.
I would like to live in another world of Justice and international law but It is not.

 

[OldTwilight]

If attack on Jordan, Kuwait and Bahrain continued like this then it wont be long that the people will rise against their Kings and rulers and they ahve to run towards Europe and US.

I don't like to think these kind of fantasy scenario

 

[Kharral]

It's your opinion.
Some say that Mojtaba Khamenei is already out of Iran because afraid of a people revolution....

You are projecting your ***** Kumar nature on to others.

Mojtaba Khamenei & his ilk has the proudest history among men of not bowing down to worldly power & not fleeing the battlefield from the enemies of GOD.

 

[RzA]

 

[UberShock]