Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Looking at the current equipment getting moved in the region by usa, i think will try to collapse the mountains under which iran missile cities are located, kind of like a last hurrah, if this doesnt work they will probably try to get a negotiated settlement.
 
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Good luck with that!!!
I think Iran may need certain chemicals and things from China and Russia and maybe motors for Drones, but all of that can be sold through companies which will be hard for the US to stop or detect.
For sure they´re giving engines and raw materials.
And if something goes wrong, they will use "private companies" as smoke screen, like the high definition mapping and information that Iran receives.
 
Ceasefire for what ? Another attack afterward ?

What eventual end do you see then out of the only two remaining options for Iran? Complete US capitulation or indefinite war?

Pakistan’s mercenary deal with Saudi Arabia doesn’t get them free gasoline from House of Saud? What kind of deal is that?

You mean the same deal that Iranian officials were openly declaring their desire to join? Are the grapes sour? One would have thought that after months of going through what Iran has with only the said country providing you with any semblance of support, you would've realized the folly of your empty hubris. It doesn't impress anyone.

Or maybe, it's a way for you to get through it...which, one would understand.

Lets get some sanity. Iran isnt folding but you suggesting they are dominating anything is delusional. Looking back at the way the leadership was removed and the damage done - there is no domination.
Ye Iran has held its own but this thread is becoming not based on facts and reality. Stop the wet dreams.
Its a situation where lives and instability is hemorrhaging the region - lets hope some sort of sanity and both parties come to their senses.

A text-book rabid echo chamber sustained on self-placating denial and fantasies of grandeur. The self-deprecating Pakistani lemmings here are a surprise, chaudhari ke tatu and what not. Revolting even when you do support Iran.
 
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Kuwait attacked again

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Jordan is probably willing to give all its lands to Israel if they are asked to
The king and his family already fled the country couple of days ago 🤣

Probably a couple of low level mossad agents running the country.
 
U.S. is striking 10-20 Iranian cities/towns a night. You would respond to that by only firing 5-7 missiles. You would fire 15-20.

So either Iran is preserving its missile for a return to high tempo operations or it simply does not have inventory to risk firing that many missiles a day.

I also don’t believe Iran can build 100 BM missiles a month during wartime. 50 maybe. I look at the Russian production rates and extrapolate that number to Iran. Russia has stronger industrial base than Iran does as well. Russia isn’t building 100 Iskanders a month.
You don’t need to fire that many missiles when you’re only targeting a couple radar stations and some hangars.
 
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Trump admits what we all can tell - Putin and Xi are and have always been Western appeasers.
Daily lies and copium by Trump. It is well documented that Russia has been giving help with targeting and drone lessons from the Ukraine war while China has been buying oil in defiance of the West and has also provided materials for missiles. Both have been providing satellite intelligence to Iran.

The FPV drone was invented in Russia after Iran transferred tech and setup a factory for Shahed's. Those FPV have now found their way to Lebanon and Iran.
 
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You mean the same deal that Iranian officials were openly declaring their desire to join?

In what world would Iran sign a defense agreement with Saudi Arabia? Talking nonsense.

Iran saying the Middle East should be managed by Middle East countries with zero U.S. military inference is not the same as selling your military to a neighbor for some dinars.

One would have thought that after months of going through what you have with only the said country providing you with any semblance of support, you would've realized the folly of your empty hubris. It doesn't impress anyone.

Qatar has also been a mediator and Oman has also been a mediator. In return, Iran has let tankers reach Pakistan without incident. What more do you want?

What has Pakistan done in “support” of Iran in the meantime? Tried to justify Saudi Arabia’s blockade of the poorest country in the region (Yemen), Tried to negotiate another mercenary deal with Kuwait, and just asked the U.S. for a $10B liquidity line.

Pakistan has been looking out for itself and Iran is looking out for itself. That’s how the world works. Saying Pakistan has been “supporting” Iran is a bit of a strong statement to make.
 
You don’t need to fire that many missiles when you’re only targeting a couple radar stations and some hangars.
Well, it is not fair to compare Irán with Russia.
Russia is producing everything, from the most advanced SPG gun (Koalitsiya SV) to brand new Tu160M2 or 5º gen fighters (even if both are not top notch for today´s standards)
Irán just need to produce ballistic missiles and some MANPADS or short range Majids systems.
By the way. Iskander Missile it is a monster, they have very complex decoys and their launcher it is a all road truck. Iran launchers are commercial trucks and some pneumatics elevators. So I am pretty sure Irán produces more ballistic missiles than Russia.
 
You don’t need to fire that many missiles when you’re only targeting a couple radar stations and some hangars.

More copium.

100+ aircraft were sitting on tarmacs across the Middle East and Jordan and iran let the U.S. relocate them to Israel and deeper into Saudi Arabia.

Those same aircraft will be used to bomb Iran this weekend or whenever Trump decides to go fully back into this war.

So, I don’t buy it for a second that Iran had the missile inventory to knock out many U.S. jets and tankers and decided “no I’m gonna stick to a 1-2 hangers and some radar sites”.
 
China stopped oil imports in month of June after Trump visited. Let’s not skew facts to fit an agenda.
This article explains when China decides to purchase oil and when it relies on its strategic oil reserve.


Here are articles about China being the biggest customer of Iranian oil.


 

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