Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

You think after Venezuela, the Chinese want to cozy up to the Saudis and dump Iran?

China is building the Saudi missile program. Chinese arm sales to other Arab nations is substantial. China was in talks with Saudi Arabia to build their nuclear plant.

China imports less than 10% of its daily oil consumption from Iran. It imports more oil from Arab countries than it does from Iran.

China,Russia, and Iran are strategic partners.

I been hearing this line for years. It wasn’t true 4 years ago it wasn’t true 10 years ago and it’s still not true today.

Russia and China do not view Iran as a strategic partner.

 

[Immortals]

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[Khorasan Black Flags]

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[RzA]

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[RzA]

Russia and China do not view Iran as a strategic partner.

Only a partner of convenience and as time goes by I expect the Chinese to see us more as a liability than an ally. Russia thought the same way until the entire Western bloc conspired against them and now have blood on their hands. The Chinese will also learn that the hard way as well.

 

[RzA]

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[Shags101]

Then what? Whatever economic damage it would unleash would be worse on poorer countries, including Iran, than those bastards with their trillions upon trillions sitting thousands of kilometers away. They will build themselves back again.

If there is an iota of sense left on either side, this will end on a table, sooner rather than later.

Well Iran has already been under crippling sanctions before so you honestly believe if Iran can keep this blockade going for several month or even a year or longer western nations who have many poor destitute people wouldn’t come unscathed from all of this trump thought the Iranians would agree to his terms of surrender he was wrong and he was the one who kept walking back on agreements that his own officials agreed to and he did as well.
It’s weird when the “bad”guys flip the script and go after the true villain my 2 cents you don’t have to agree with it

 

[Shags101]

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Probably so hopefully Iran actually hits first like last time after the Beirut airstrike but with as much as they can and as many successive waves as possible

 

[Flotilla]

Iskander has a range of less than 500KM and its decoys are Cold War era. It is not that much more advanced than Fattah or Keyibar Shekan which both have much longer ranges and need more sophisticated targeting systems to stay on course. Iskander is not a super missile and Russia is building at least 60-70 a month alongside Onyx missile and Zircon and a family of CMs and drones.

Iskander is hypersonics and have semi ballistic trajectory plus decoys to deceive and surpass enemy SAM systems. It has been specialized to chase Patriots during very firsts months of the war.

 

[Flotilla]

Then what? Whatever economic damage it would unleash would be worse on poorer countries, including Iran, than those bastards with their trillions upon trillions sitting thousands of kilometers away. They will build themselves back again.

If there is an iota of sense left on either side, this will end on a table, sooner rather than later.

Donald Trump is currently reneging on the agreement with the EU to avert a tariff war.

Perhaps someone needs to be found to teach him how to respect an agreement. Pakistan?, European union, Canada?... oh, wey, México!!!!¿?

 

[hussain0216]

U.S. is striking 10-20 Iranian cities/towns a night. You would respond to that by only firing 5-7 missiles. You would fire 15-20.

So either Iran is preserving its missile for a return to high tempo operations or it simply does not have inventory to risk firing that many missiles a day.

I also don’t believe Iran can build 100 BM missiles a month during wartime. 50 maybe. I look at the Russian production rates and extrapolate that number to Iran. Russia has stronger industrial base than Iran does as well. Russia isn’t building 100 Iskanders a month.

Your right

Your absolutely right

Just remember, the weapon in Iran hand isnt the missiles or drones, it's the ability to close the Hormuz, the red sea and stop movement across the region

The pain is the screws being turned on the U.S and world economy,

It's going to be difficult for Iran to maintain a high rate of attack whilst under attack

The U.S aim is to force Iran into submission, through sever bombing

Iran needs to absorb the attacks and hit back as best it can but keep the shipping lanes under threat and let time and economic pain do the rest


It's unfortunate China has aimed to calm the markets

But a few more weeks of pain and it could change the world, no more ceasefires

The U.S is not trustw

 

[Immortals]

Just remember, the weapon in Iran hand isnt the missiles or drones, it's the ability to close the Hormuz, the red sea and stop movement across the region

The pain is the screws being turned on the U.S and world economy,

Iran isn’t even doing well at blocking Hormuz and the Houthis have been relatively worthless on the Bab Al Mandeb front other than 2 tankers. More tankers are leaving today and Houthis aren’t doing anything.

As for Iran ships are still getting thru and doing STS transfers off the coast of Oman and then going back in to get more oil.

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So at least 200M barrels of oil has exited the strait since March from STS alone plus another 100M in on sea ships that were stuck.

So Iran has not been doing a good job at keeping the strait properly closed. It’s leaky at best.

 

[Immortals]

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[kobra]

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