Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Trump joins Zelensky and Netanyahu at Lindsey Graham's funeral after talks

The world leaders are paying their respects to the late senator, who was a big supporter of both Ukraine and Israel.

www.bbc.co.uk

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Might be worth waiting until the little midget leaves?

It seems that once local proxies have been burned out and US itself cannot in any meaningful way change the status quo in its favor ... the war is being delegated...
And now the clown of kyiv has cards to play...
So, the ancestral zion and fabricated zion join hands.

 

[Immortals]

Argachi has already surrendered in quick fashion after his fake threats and red lines

 

[Meengla]

The orange clown along with his sidekick miliekowsky cant keep up this charade, things will get rough for normal folks once its all over, many of the experts have warned that this artificial pump and dump is temporary and worse times are ahead, trump and miliekowsky are operating on the basis that IRI was supposed to fall in the first couple of weeks

Trump may be that ignorant but I am absolutely sure Netanyahu and the Israelis in general had no illusions about Iran's fall so soon; they know the Middle East better than anyone else, perhaps in the whole world. But it was good to sell a quick-win to Trump, the ignorant arrogant one.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Iran in its infinite wisdom purchased a passenger jet then left it at an airport near the shoreline to get bombed by US.

@Persian Gulf

they don't save their own lives, so they sure as hell aren't going to save random passenger planes

 

[Persian Gulf]

Argachi has already surrendered in quick fashion after his fake threats and red lines

this is pathetic even for Araghchi

Zelensky public and directly takes credit for the attack then Araghchi says the FM privately informed him it was a mistake? humiliating.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

War is coming back. Trump offered 50/50 knowing Iran won’t accept. Iran wants full control over entry.

Bibi was smiling and in good spirits after his meeting with Trump. If the war was coming to a close he would be much more subdued.

Which is why I mentioned the Montreaux convention. A precedence that canbe built upon... limiting any foreign warship entry... tonnage etc...

In case of Iran no foreign warships should be allowed to enter... Oman just simply lacks any power to enforce... canbe manipulated or arm twisted to make concessions that directly impact the safety and security of Iran or in other times the littoral states/statelets. Sitting at the rim, Oman cannot extend authority past that point...

 

[krash]

Well, Iran is the only state in the Persian Gulf littoral states holding the entirety of the northern coastline...
And one facing a national security concern emanating from across the globe.

Oman just simply cannot partake in security issues... because it simply cannot... and faces arm twisting from other countries to do their bidding... as demonstrated by Orange already.

And hence Oman should obviously hand over its territory to Iran. Any other countries or situations where you would offer this allowance as well?

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

And hence Oman should obviously hand over its territory to Iran. Any other countries or situations where you would offer this allowance as well?

Not territory. Authorization of entry to ships that may impact the interior... as not being part of it.

The exit, sure... and share the proceeds 50/50 ... even while being unable to enforce anything... what Oman gets is a concession, regardless... or gets arm twisted. That is a weakness that will impact littoral states...

Now if Oman was a maritime power and able to sway things on its own right and push back on those who mean harm... Oman could and in fact should have control over the transiting ships. It doesn't...

 

[MS Sandhu]

Not territory. Authorization of entry to ships that may impact the interior... as not being part of it.

The exit, sure... and share the proceeds 50/50 ... even while being unable to enforce anything... what Oman gets is a concession, regardless... or gets arm twisted. That is a weakness that will impact littoral states...

Now if Oman was a maritime power and able to sway things on its own right and push back on those who mean harm... Oman could and in fact should have control over the transiting ships. It doesn't...

If Oman was that capable,Iran wouldn't have been able to close the Strait in first place right in Omani waters.

 

[lightning f57]

Iran doesn't need to carry out military action against ukraine, it is pointlessly , they need focus on us/israel

I agree, Iran shouldnt give Zelenski what he wants and that is to try and connect his war with Russia and Iran v US together. Zelenski needs weapons and funding and he knows allot of what he could get is going to Israel and to fight against Iran. I think Iran has enough issues to deal with than opening another front.

 

[Nawnaw1]

Iran has to stand firm, but what some people here have to understand is Iran isn't a superpower, it's a defensive power and has done quite well. Sadly I think Iran will end up being destroyed. Slow boiling frog. The West just has too much firepower and there isn't an East to step in, or South. It will take a few years, but it will happen I'm afraid.

Best Iran can do now is ensure that the nearby bases will be vacated and no fleet returns inside the Persian Gulf. But they can do much from afar and from the sea. Iran hasn't enough air defence and everything can be pounded that needs to be pounded, except missile bases and nuclear underground sites. So they just collapse everything else slowly.

I think if you look at the West's anti-Russian wars and hatred for the past 200 years and they STILL don't let go, what is Iran in comparison? An easy thing to squash.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Saudi Aramco has shut down its Jazan oil refinery after a Houthi missile and drone attack damaged key facilities at the site, according to reports.

The refinery, which processes 400,000 barrels of crude per day, suffered damage to its Integrated Gasification Combined Cycle (IGCC) complex and tank farm area. Repairs are expected to be completed and operations to resume by Aug. 15, according to a note from consultancy IIR.

 

[MS Sandhu]

I agree, Iran shouldnt give Zelenski what he wants and that is to try and connect his war with Russia and Iran v US together. Zelenski needs weapons and funding and he knows allot of what he could get is going to Israel and to fight against Iran. I think Iran has enough issues to deal with than opening another front.

Ukraine can f#K up the oil infra structure with its long range drones just like they demonstrated against Russia.
Just be careful in dealing with them.They have nothing to lose.

 

[Nawnaw1]

Ukraine can f#K up the oil infra structure with its long range drones just like they demonstrated against Russia.
Just be careful in dealing with them.They have nothing to lose.

There is no such thing as 'Ukraine'. That's what some understand, and everybody needs to understand. Ukraine is a 'front'. A front for the West/US/Isr. They do what the decision makers in the West decide. They're a front operation. They can't even exist a single day without the full full backing of the West. It's become like a drone. A drone of a country. Plausible deniability let them do anything in their own name. Not even plausible deniability, as we all know who provides the intel and coordinates and everything.