Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

Needs confirmation, but big escalation from Saudi Arabia

Seems to be confirmed and the number appears to be at least 5

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

I can't entertain your pseudo-wisdom again, plucking ridiculously unfounded claims out of thin air. We've talked about this a few pages ago. US attacked -> Iran shut down the Strait to exert economic pressure -> Iran realized there's a pretty penny to be made -> Iran wants to keep making it -> US wants to keep it free. This has nothing to do with Iranian security concerns; 1) The US does not need the Strait to attack Iran,

Iran this, Iran that and Iran the other thing... You answered already.

US attacked... why doesn’t the US just walk away?
What changed the aim of that invasion to opening of the straits?
US can of course attack Iran from other places... and you gave orange just nother reason to quit the straits and attack from other locations.

2) the US military vessels will not be stopped by an agreement if it did need to,

Then have the fifth fleet return or shut up!!!

3) Iran does not need an agreement to attack enemy military vessels if it needed to,

Iran doesn't but the rest need to know that these will not be allowed through, kapish‽

4) Iran would not be saved from any retaliation by any agreement if it did attack enemy vessels,

Then let Iran suffer the consequences... since you don't care ... why bother?

4) Iran's primary concern is the money it can make from commercial shipping. Pretending that there is some Khwarazmian Calculus behind this to whitewash an unlawful and shortsighted measure by Iran is laughable.

Iran is sanctioned by the US and what you're talking about are the future prospects of the straits... let's return back to reality... if there is no state there are no dividends!

All of this still does not matter as Omani waters belong to Oman.

Let Oman get it and have US back off ... instead of having commercial shipping transit Omani waters with AIS turned off... to smuggle them through... while targeting Iranian vessels.

There, there. Your last hissy fit didn't serve you well either.

Let me be the judge of that...

So Iran is not using its might to force its diktat on Omani sovereign waters? That's a pretty dense statement when in the same post you talk about Iran dictating to Oman.

Let Oman talk for itself... I think we know Iranian position.

My bias? Sure, bud. Any other fallacies you'd like to desperately clutch?

For instance?

Proxy, antagonist, prop, Oman decides what it is and what happens with its waters, however it sees fit and at the behest of whoever it sees fit. Laughable level of self-awareness to cheer for Iranian proxies in Iraq and Yemen while wailing about another sovereign country deciding for itself.

American proxies in Iran, Iraq... Syria, Yemen are just fine... what are you on about...

That was one undignified dance around calling out Iran for what it's doing. "Persevere in creating a new niche".

Or return to status quo ante!!!

You say? I'll call the UN right now.

Can't even remain honest to your own arguments. "I'll only take this part and not that one please". Biases, eh?

Where is UN on the rest of it... UNCLOS at least makes them territorial waters... but not a proxy for US to claw back via Oman.

Iran has no capability to keep its nemesis at a distance. Iran could move to Central Asia and the US will still get there. What fantasy world are you living in? Still not what Iran is trying to achieve here.

Let it be! Let US do it!!!

 

[Watandar]

This guy is an Israeli but I have found his takes on the war to be interesting.

 

[FuturePAF]

How many munitions left? Is the following assessment accurate?

 

[Nawnaw1]

Yeah things will escalate sadly. And if reformists are actually talking about limiting missiles and range, they need to be killed by IRGC immediately. If that is possible. Not even arresting and courts, just immediate execution. Without those missiles Iran was Gaza. End of. Public safisfaction of a country keeps a country alive and together. Missiles defend. Or allow Iran to have 100 batteries of S400 and 500 SU-35 lol. Either that or missiles and drones up the wazoo.

 

[hussain0216]

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[Persian Gulf]

Saudi Arabia killed 5 IRGC advisors in Iraq

This deserves a very strong response

 

[Immortals]

 

[hussain0216]

This is the real weapon, the u.s is in trouble

 

[Immortals]

Saudi Arabia killed 5 IRGC advisors in Iraq

This deserves a very strong response

No proper response will come as long as Rezaei, Qalibaf, and Argachi are in positions of power.

 

[Feroze]

Live updatesLive updates,

Iran war live: Trump vows strikes after Iran attacks US forces in Jordan​

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Iran rejects Oman’s Hormuz proposal, demands partial control of Omani route



By Mohammed R Mhawish, Fiona Kelliher and Nils Adler
Published On 29 Jul 202629 Jul 2026
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• US President Donald Trump threatens retaliatory action after Iran said it had fired missiles at a US base in Jordan.
• Separately, US-Saudi attacks kill at least 20 Iraqi fighters and wound 32 others in strikes across seven provinces as the regional war continues to expand.
• Tehran rejects Oman’s proposal to split transit routes through the Strait of Hormuz and instead calls for full control of the inbound corridor and partial control of the outbound route.
• The United Nations human rights office says attacks by Israeli settlers and the expansion of outposts in the occupied West Bank are hitting an “all-time high”.

Pezeshkian urges Iranians to ‘stand firm’ against ‘the enemy’

Iranian president's words come as Trump threatens to hit back 'hard' after US says Iran attacked Jordan.

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[krash]

Iran this, Iran that and Iran the other thing... You answered already.

US attacked... why doesn’t the US just walk away?
What changed the aim of that invasion to opening of the straits?
US can of course attack Iran from other places... and you gave orange just nother reason to quit the straits and attack from other locations.



Then have the fifth fleet return or shut up!!!



Iran doesn't but the rest need to know that these will not be allowed through, kapish‽



Then let Iran suffer the consequences... since you don't care ... why bother?


Iran is sanctioned by the US and what you're talking about are the future prospects of the straits... let's return back to reality... if there is no state there are no dividends!



Let Oman get it and have US back off ... instead of having commercial shipping transit Omani waters with AIS turned off... to smuggle them through... while targeting Iranian vessels.


Let me be the judge of that...


Let Oman talk for itself... I think we know Iranian position.


For instance?


American proxies in Iran, Iraq... Syria, Yemen are just fine... what are you on about...


Or return to status quo ante!!!


Where is UN on the rest of it... UNCLOS at least makes them territorial waters... but not a proxy for US to claw back via Oman.



Let it be! Let US do it!!!

Ah, ever faithful Pakistani verbal diarrhea. Always dependable when you don't have an answer or the dignity to admit it.

 

[Watandar]

US weapons stockpiles continue to dwindle with permanent end to Iran war nowhere in sight​

The US military’s weapons stockpiles, including its inventory of crucial air defense missiles, remain severely depleted following a major flare up of the war with Iran in recent weeks, according to three sources familiar with recent Pentagon data and a new report by outside analysts.

A substantive settlement to end the conflict remains elusive, and the shortage of the missiles could impact the US’ ability to engage on other fronts.

In a Monday report, researchers from the Center for Strategic and International Studies think tank estimated that fewer than 827 Patriot interceptors remain in US stockpiles, and fewer than 278 THAAD ballistic missile interceptors are left. The three sources familiar with the matter, who requested anonymity to discuss the US stockpile, told CNN that the CSIS estimates were close to internal government figures.

The figures represent a significant depletion of the pre-war stockpile, which CSIS estimated numbered around 2,200 Patriots (of the platform’s two most-modernized variants) and 452 THAAD missiles. The systems are the US military’s primary means of taking down incoming enemy ballistic missiles, and each interceptor missile costs millions of dollars.

“Diminished stockpiles may force the United States and its coalition partners to take more risks with interceptions. There are no good alternatives to Patriot and THAAD for ballistic missile defense. Navy ships, with Standard Missiles that can intercept such threats, generally are too far away,” the authors of the CSIS report wrote.

President Donald Trump expressed his desire to replenish “the more sophisticated stuff” when asked about munitions stockpiles aboard Air Force One on Monday, but the president held that the inventories are “in very good shape.” And Gen. Dan Caine, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told senators last week that without the additional funding it’s asking for, the Pentagon will “not get the munitions” it needs.

CNN previously reported that Caine cited the dwindling munitions stockpile in a Friday meeting with Trump during which the commander-in-chief was weighing a major escalation in the war. Trump, whom Caine and others briefed on additional downsides to ramping up the conflict, announced a pause in strikes against Iran after the meeting. But that pause may have been short-lived. On Tuesday US and Saudi forces conducted joint strikes on Iranian proxies in Iraq, and after the US military announced it intercepted a “surprise attack” by Iran on US forces in the Middle East.

The report’s lead author, CSIS defense analyst and retired Marine Corps Col. Mark Cancian, told CNN earlier this month that continued fighting with Iran could deplete stockpiles so low that it could impact the US military’s ability to fight with China or even North Korea.

NBC News reported that US commanders, motivated by a desire not to waste their interceptor missiles, are opting not to shoot down Iranian projectiles that are on track to hit unpopulated areas of US bases in the region. The reported tactic signifies a change from prior air and missile defense practices in the region, where a US-manned Patriot detachment defended a mostly evacuated Al-Udeid Air Base, Qatar, against a wave of Iranian ballistic missiles in June 2025.

An interception takes place after Iran's armed forces say they targeted Al-Udeid base in a missile attack, in Qatar, June 23, 2025.
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The Defense Department has accelerated its efforts to expand interceptor missile production in recent months, including two deals inked this week to boost Patriot and THAAD rocket motor manufacturing, but a spokesperson declined to answer questions about when the expansion will lead to results.

Analysts say it could take years to fully replenish the US stockpile of high-end munitions, like Patriot missiles, due to the lead time for producing those weapons.
Chief Pentagon spokesperson Sean Parnell, in a July 28 statement identical to two sent to CNN on the topic since April, said the military “is the most powerful in the world and has everything it needs to execute at the time and place of the President’s choosing. We have executed multiple successful operations across combatant commands while ensuring the U.S. military possesses a deep arsenal of capabilities to protect our people and our interests.”

Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth have largely blamed former President Joe Biden’s administration for the munitions shortages. But the issue has been exacerbated by the war with Iran, during which CSIS assesses the US military has fired more than 60% of its key Patriot and THAAD interceptors.

The pending request from the Pentagon for supplemental defense funding includes several provisions related to the stockpile. Hegseth argued to Senate appropriators in a hearing on the supplemental funding ask last week that the Biden administration “took munitions one-for-one and sent them to Ukraine and had tried to replace them with the same bureaucratic process that was too slow and didn’t replace them in real time.”

But lawmakers of both parties have argued that the shortfalls are bigger than any one administration and require bipartisan support to resolve.
“The shortfalls in munitions have been well known to this committee for some time,” said Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine in last Tuesday’s appropriations hearing. “While these munitions shortfalls have been years in the making, they are growing increasingly urgent.”

CNN’s Kevin Liptak and Jim Sciutto contributed to this report.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Ah, ever faithful Pakistani verbal diarrhea. Always dependable when you don't have an answer or the dignity to admit it.

Gave you a wise suggestion earlier to take the time... just walk away. Gas light some other thread for now...

 

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