Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Ali_Baba]

@tsunset - and what do we say to this ?

 

[krash]

I dont want to believe weatern media pr9paganda when they say Iranian missile capabilities have been destroyed. But when I see that Iran has not been able to fire more than 10 missiles in a single day for last 2-3 months. It seems there is some truth to it and iran somehow lost the ability to fire 15+ missiles each day.

Now, some may argue that iran is playing the long term game. Okay. I hear you. But if 4 months into a war, and you are still being attacked from a neighbouring country which is not even 18000 sq.km total land area.... then maybe you lost.

Firing 4-5 missiles towards Jordan, which we know are going to be intercepted by US, Israel and Nato assets... is worthless.

Or it's due to Iranian mathematics that we are not aware of. Possibly to de-escalate and find a way back to the table. Iran would not have manufactured thousands of missiles but only 4 TELS. Short of a massive on-ground presence, the US has no way of getting rid of Iran's missile capabilities.

Even after 4 months of war. UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Jordan, Israel, USA... none of this country lost its ability to attack iran. All of them are capable even today and still do attack iran. If iran was successful enough in making atleast 2 of them harmless and arm-less, I would be saying Iran actually achieved something here.

Disregarding the fantasies you must have read on this thread, how could Iran have done that? It has no means to. The US has dropped exponentially more tonnage on Iran without achieving it.

I have got a warning from the moderation staff, so I won't use the word. I am agnostic Muslim, and don't follow a particular brand of religion.
But iranian theocratic regime (I hope I am not using a sectarian vernacular, theocracy is a legit term), countries cannot free themselves from their religious evolution. Same way segments in Pakistan have a rigid view of religion and we all are witnessing hindutva (century old hard work by the bhagats paying off, credit to them) in India.
So yes, the doctrines do shape countries, their world view, and
their actions. It is not wise to confront USA, you get a ramp, exit out.
Pakistan did a great service to provide both an exit ramp, continuing the war path is not in the interest of the region.

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You folks need to open a bit more, everything is not sectarian.

I know, there's plenty of members from both sides on this thread who cannot help but lean on their archaic and childish sectarian rhetoric, in offense and defense. However, the resumption of hostilities was for control over the Strait and none of what Iran has or has not done in this conflict can be attributed to sectarianism.

 

[Pakistan First]

Iran's Interior Minister was in Pakistan and met the Pakistan Army Chief. There is a lot of coordination between the two countries. Pakistan has to walk a tightrope to protect its financial interests as well as to ensure Iran doesn't fall and become a staging ground for the India-Israel axis.
And Iranians know all that.

I think Pakistan should stay away for time being unless explicitly requested by both sides with some sort of guarantees.

As elements in both sides won't hesitate to lay accusations that Pakistan is with the other side. That Lindsey graham accused Pakistan's role as negotiator when he found out some Iranian aircraft was parked in a Pakistani base saying "no wonder negotiations aren't going anywhere".

Similarly, if US attacks in middle of talks then Iranians can accuse us of many things. Also we have seen how both have torpedoed the MoU last time.

 

[Immortals]

 

[FUB]

 

[FUB]

Those buildings are empty
Iran will pour concrete.

 

[FUB]

 

[FUB]

These mfers will pay for everything that was destroyed in Iran.

 

[Flotilla]

So let me understand,

1º.- US attacked Ahvaz.

2º.- As a response, IRGC attacked Al-Azraq?.

Or is not like this and it is viceversa?.

I just want to understand the logic of this clear escalation.

 

[FUB]

This is were Iran needs to play the Houthi card . Destroy Kuwait . That will get their attention. They are aiding and abetting Iran’s adversaries in this war .

 

[FUB]

 

[FUB]

Who was behind this attack?
If it was a false flag
The news loop would be running 24/7

 

[FUB]

 

[Lehrasap]

Keep in mind during Syrian civil war many Palestinian groups switched allegiance from AoR to Wahhabi terrorist groups.

And Iran in its infinite wisdom forgave them and established ties again only to Sinwar destroy the AoR several years later by doing his stupid October attacks which destroyed Gaza and its people and got the Resistance entangled in a war it never wanted.

Iran got a golden chance at that moment to separate itself from the Palestinian issue. But religion is a curse for Iran.

 

[BHAN85]

US troops may be ordered to surrender phones as Iran exploits battlefield footage

CENTCOM chief Admiral Brad Cooper warned that photos and videos posted by troops and journalists can help Tehran assess the accuracy of its attacks and plan follow-up strikes; personnel in Jordan may soon have their phones confiscated

www.ynetnews.com

Some entrepreneur could start to sell walkmans next to middle east American military bases