Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[tsunset]

If Israel asks Saudi Arabia to give up their land for Israel and bomb Mecca and give it to them, they would accept unconditionnally

They are willing to do anything on earth for the sake of Jewish's personal interests

 

[kobra]

All Correct, Israel won HUGE.




Nothing, you had a militant Sunni group in Gaza who thought just because they can fire 5000 rockets a week at Israel that means they are ready to do a massive pointless Pearl Harbor esque attack.

For what reason? Who knows in the end. Hamas had never been stronger prior to its suicide mission. All thanks to aid from the AoR. Why did they end up throwing all that influence and power away to give Israel a blank check to commit genocide?

Hamas had to be the most idiotic organization on Earth. But it’s not suprising, whenever a Sunni country/group/etc has fought Israel they have lost in embarrassing fashion and ended up worse off then if they did nothing. Add Hamas to that list.

The only issue is that idiotic alliance with Hamas took Iran, HZ, Assad, and Houthis down with those morons like Sinwar. That is why I have ALWAYS been against Iran’s policy of arming any Sunni militant groups. They simply do not think pragmatically and in the end are a liability more than asset.

You can thank Solemani, Nasrallah, and Khamenai for re-establishing ties with Hamas after they backstabbed the Axis by siding with terrorist groups in Syria after Assad had given the group so much support for years.

Sadly you are absolutely right here.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Drone hangars, fuel depot destroyed at US base in Kuwait: IRGC​

Iran’s Revolutionary Guard (IRGC) has destroyed two drone hangars and a fuel storage facility for military aircraft and helicopters at the US Ali Al Salem airbase in Kuwait, according to a statement reported by Iranian state-owned media.

The statement addressed the people of Kuwait, saying Iran’s attacks will continue until the expulsion of US “occupying and looting forces” from the region.

 

[Immortals]

No strikes tonight?

They are gonna strike another deal aren’t they?

 

[Shags101]

No strikes tonight?

They are gonna strike another deal aren’t they?

That’s what we everyone thought when it was quiet for a few days than Iran struck first and still is from what reports are saying but damn I’m like an addict looking for his next hit and I’m waiting for Israel to come yes I know you don’t think it is but I still say they are softening up the defenses of surrounding countries so these missiles they have been upgrading won’t have much standing in their way.

Curious how they did all of these tests to improve those missiles so quickly I mean they’re now hitting pinpoint accuracy in Jordan I don’t see why they couldn’t do it in Israel the distance isn’t that huge between the two

 

[Hayabusa]

He is look at the same blurry resolution picture as you are. Without something more clear, it’s all speculation.

I mention it as a claim. It's up to the reader to come to their own conclusion.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Nothing, you had a militant Sunni group in Gaza who thought just because they can fire 5000 rockets a week at Israel that means they are ready to do a massive pointless Pearl Harbor esque attack.

For what reason? Who knows in the end. Hamas had never been stronger prior to its suicide mission. All thanks to aid from the AoR. Why did they end up throwing all that influence and power away to give Israel a blank check to commit genocide?

yeah, but what was the end goal for Hamas?

I don't think they could ever have pulled off a bigger or more tactically successful strike than the one they did.

they have now surrendered because they have been totally defeated, but that was always inevitable, there are severe limits on how powerful they could become in such a harsh environment.

 

[Hazard]

If Israel asks Saudi Arabia to give up their land for Israel and bomb Mecca and give it to them, they would accept unconditionnally

They are willing to do anything on earth for the sake of Jewish's personal interests

...and the worst thing? Millions upon millions of Muslims are ready to sacrifice their lives for these Saudis.

Saudis/Emiratis are literally in bed with some of the most disgusting people ever known to mankind and yet we see folks on this very forum defending their actions.

 

[Immortals]

yeah, but what was the end goal for Hamas?

There was no end goal. It’s was a militant group who got too much power than it knew what to do with.

I don't think they could ever have pulled off a bigger or more tactically successful strike than the one they did.

Hamas was never going to overpower Israel, the point was to have enough power to prevent Israel from annexing Gaza like they are doing West Bank. Hamas was the first time that Palestinians weren’t weak like the 90’s when they threw stones at tanks.

People forget that Hamas fought Israel to multiple short ceasefire battles in the years leading up to the October attacks. But it seems that confidence lead way to delusions rather than pragmatic thinking.

they have now surrendered because they have been totally defeated, but that was always inevitable, there are severe limits on how powerful they could become in such a harsh environment.

That defeat was their own fault. They had tens of thousands of rockets and indigenous arms industry to make anti tank rockets and rockets inside Gaza. They had built deterrence from Israeli offensives, that’s not the same as meaning you can go take on Israel head to head or do offensive tactics.

But Sinwar and co were either infiltrated by Mossad who fed them this idiotic idea or were just idiots who couldn’t be content with the power they had and thought one big battle could turn the entire fortunes around. They likely thought having 100+ hostages would give them tremendous bargaining power. I don’t know. Either way they were idiots and got Gaza leveled.

 

[Hazard]

yeah, but what was the end goal for Hamas?

I don't think they could ever have pulled off a bigger or more tactically successful strike than the one they did.

they have now surrendered because they have been totally defeated, but that was always inevitable, there are severe limits on how powerful they could become in such a harsh environment.

There was no end goal, there never really is when the Muslims States plan any war. They only ever plan for the first shot - no thought is ever given to the inevitable result - that's usually left to God.

The Arab world didn't come to Palestinians aid during 2011 (don't remember the exact dates) when Israel killed 1000s of Palestinians. No one did anything, and yet Hamas went on to plan and execute 0ct 7th hoping it'd lead to a wider war and it'd be worth it - it'd been worth it had that been the case. But they forgot one crucial aspect: the middle easterns are in no mood for any wars at the moment (even if one knocked on their door). They should have been patient and waited for the Oil to run out first.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

 

[Persian Gulf]

There was no end goal. It’s was a militant group who got too much power than it knew what to do with.

Hamas was never going to overpower Israel, the point was to have enough power to prevent Israel from annexing Gaza like they are doing West Bank. Hamas was the first time that Palestinians weren’t weak like the 90’s when they threw stones at tanks.

People forget that Hamas fought Israel to multiple short ceasefire battles in the years leading up to the October attacks. But it seems that confidence lead way to delusions rather than pragmatic thinking.

That defeat was their own fault. They had tens of thousands of rockets and indigenous arms industry to make anti tank rockets and rockets inside Gaza. They had built deterrence from Israeli offensives, that’s not the same as meaning you can go take on Israel head to head or do offensive tactics.

But Sinwar and co were either infiltrated by Mossad who fed them this idiotic idea or were just idiots who couldn’t be content with the power they had and thought one big battle could turn the entire fortunes around. They likely thought having 100+ hostages would give them tremendous bargaining power. I don’t know. Either way they were idiots and got Gaza leveled.

they didn't have significant deterrence, Israel 'mowed the lawn' every few years and could always destroy Gaza to defeat Hamas if they felt the threat became too strong. Hamas just beat them to it and got some punches in before Israel did it.

In a few days Hamas killed more than 1,000 Israelis (around 400 soldiers/police force). with 1,500 ballistic missiles and hundreds of drones Iran only managed to kill around 30 Israelis and 1 IDF soldier (off duty)

in the best case scenario Hamas would have traded its power / weapons for more concessions from Israel without having Gaza turned to rubble, but we can't predict what else might have happened

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Houthis also denied it.
I've a feeling it's probably UAE not the Saudis . The Saudis use our red sea ports to deliever their oil to our mediterranean ports through sumed pipeline and from there they re-fill their oil tankers to go anywhere since bab el-mandab is closed by Houthis. So the saudis can't target their only path of their oil currently.

I'm just saying it was UAE

UAE or "Israel"

It is false flag

 

[Immortals]

But they forgot one crucial aspect: the middle easterns are in no mood for any wars at the moment (even if one knocked on their door). They should have been patient and waited for the Oil to run out first.

Israel won’t stop at Gaza. It will soon try for Jordan, Egypt and parts of Saudi Arabia. And the Arabs have hoped by normalizing relations with Israel they can stop this.

Appeasement never works. Ask Europeans who appeased Hitler.

The good news for Iran is it’s far from Israel’s borders and it will be a long long long time till Israel reaches Karbala.

However for the Arabs, their time is numbered. Iran should just try to keep Hezbollah alive and leave the issue of Palestine and Greater Israel to the Arabs to handle. They never wanted our help and see us as a greater threat then Israel so it’s time to stop trying to save the Levant.