Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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Iranians are pretty creative in visuals! I think the Lego animations will be talked about for a long time.
BTW, Pakistan's retired Air Force officer Khalid Chisti is also saying that he has analyzed the claim and that most likely F-35s were hit in Jordan and that 'real time' intelligence came from either China or Russia, which made that possible. Mr. Chisti is very careful with words.
 
Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ said:
GCC gets paid... with interest! Pakistan provides salve labor... a subsidy they can and do replace with other wannabe slaves, either from India, Bangladesh or Philippines among others...


Iran is right next door... get it over your head that you can solve an energy crisis from choke points... that can be done overland. China has to worry about it's energy exactly because of these choke points that US can block to stop it's energy access from Mideast. Europe got it's underwater pipeline blown up....

There is no alternative... either you produce your own... divest into other forms of energy or access it from easiest, direct and easily secured route possible. That could be overland gas from Turkmenistan or pipelines from Russia or Iran which is right next door. Best yet, Pakistan doesn't need dollars to buy that energy...


Confrontation?

This tanker was coming as others previously BECAUSE it was heading to Pakistan and thus far no one touched anything headed that way....
This is new and it only reflects that one party would burn a bridge ... a bridge that Pakistan enabled... to get the ceasefire and MoU through ...

That bridge is on fire right now!
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This is trumps way of saying "do more" to pakistan just like his predecessors in bush, obama and biden paying no regard to ground realities.
 
krash said:
I didn't say that. NERVA was for propulsion in space and did not have these issues. The Aircraft Nuclear Propulsion did. The official reason for that too was given as budgetary but later disclosures revealed "severe crash and radiation hazards" as the primary reason for internal opposition. Both technologies had already been demonstrated as workable.
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I think we're actually closer in agreement than it may seem. My only objection was to the claim that these concepts "don't make any sense." The historical record clearly shows otherwise, they were engineered, built, tested, and demonstrated. The fact that they were not deployed does not mean the technology was invalid; it means that, for those specific applications, the risks, costs, and practical challenges outweighed the benefits....

So the point is not whether these technologies were possible (they clearly were) but whether they were the best choice for a given mission. I believe we have both made our points clear, perhaps it would be best to leave this part of the discussion here and remain on the topic of the thread.
 
Immortals said:
The weekly amount escaping Iran’s blockade has been increasing since MoU collapse. The SoH is becoming leaky and Iran will need to assert dominance again by hitting 3-4 ships to get them to back off again.

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Do you understand these ships are belong to some countries , and countries usually don't ignore attack on their ships , they will act , some in public , some behind the scene ...
 
tsunset said:
The whole world besides a few countries, is an existential threat to Iran, America, South America, Japan etc, are all threats and accomplices

Unfortunately if Iran doesn't strike all of them pre-emptively just in case then it is just a matter of time before they hit Iran like Ukraine did

By doing nothing Iran is giving consent to be attacked first just like Ukraine did recently
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The fact is that we have limited resource .... There is some narrow line between acting brave and acting stupid ...

IMO the most logical and cost-effective option for Iran is to go nuclear ...
 
OldTwilight said:
IMO the most logical and cost-effective option for Iran is to go nuclear ...
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It's the only solution. The US is not going to leave Iran alone, not as long as Trump is in the office and the Congress and the Senate are voting in favor of his foreign policies.

Even if Trump leaves the office, there's always the possibility that his legacy of bullying Iran would remain and would shape the bipartisan policies of the United States in future with regard to Iran.
 
ShapurII said:
I was just going to write that Netanyahu seems to have convinced Trump to choose further escalation.

Saudi Arabia is also preparing for large scale war with the Houthis of Yemen.
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This is funny:

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OldTwilight said:
Do you understand these ships are belong to some countries , and countries usually don't ignore attack on their ships , they will act , some in public , some behind the scene ...
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They are already acting by sending ships through a warzone. They are acting against Iran. You can bet they are already doing so in other ways as well. In public as well as behind the scenes, naturally.
 
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