Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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Few interesting things with with Barzani's meeting with Jewlani. First it confirms the Kurds as the biggest whores in the region, up for sale, just like the Emirates. Second, the Iraqi national flag wasn't even on display but instead the Kurdish one, which is pretty insulting tbh. Also, a lot of Kurds and Kurdish led militant forces have deep hatred for Jewlani so I'm not sure what Barzani gains from this meeting either than an invitation against Iran or to stay off Syrian crossfire in their upcoming battle against PMU.

 

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Lol. Inventory count of weapon systems are one of the most classified info in US military and Hegseth already denied this report and using CNN as a source that has been caught in many lies......
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CNN cbs(which has become very pro Trump) Fox News which isn’t actually denying it I’m sure they went over the information ,new republic, Wall Street journal…..let me guess you get your news from news max oh…..seriously wasn’t this war supposed to have been over in less the a week America was going to shut down all of Iran with some kind of magical cybernetic attack as they had supposedly done in Venezuela I mean you did predict it…..don’t lie be honest you looked silly predicting all of those things that never happened mean at least I have been right on quite a few occasions you just keep parroting Trump

 

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Cogs lining up...
It will grow horizontal.

 

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CNN cbs(which has become very pro Trump) Fox News which isn’t actually denying it I’m sure they went over the information ,new republic, Wall Street journal…..let me guess you get your news from news max oh…..seriously wasn’t this war supposed to have been over in less the a week America was going to shut down all of Iran with some kind of magical cybernetic attack as they had supposedly done in Venezuela I mean you did predict it…..don’t lie be honest you looked silly predicting all of those things that never happened mean at least I have been right on quite a few occasions you just keep parroting Trump

Excursion, love taps... they want a deal... Saudis don't want it... Qatar called in... Field Marshal etc...

It will slowly start dawning on everyone... ones who don't understand the magnitude. This is strategic.
It is because of the ignorance you see here in many that reinforce the stupidity of this endeavor. Orange could have walked away longtime ago. Instead he chose to reinforce defeat!
With no face saver. Even the MoU was ambiguous enough for some to takeaway a win in guise. Those who didn't get the deeper meaning in it... caused him to redouble only to comeback without anything except an undertaking that will permanently stain America... on top of losing the empire. Walking away allowed the apparatus to exist in its current form... reinforcing the folly... undermines it... undo it... forever.

 

[Immortals]

The parties will work to remove naval mines from the central passage of the strait within 30 days. After clearing the central passage, it will be used for incoming and outgoing traffic under the terms of a permanent agreement to be negotiated between the Sultanate of Oman and Iran.

The central passage was what has been used for decades BEFORE the war. So it seems like Iran is agreeing to another stupid deal that will end up giving the enemy everything it wants and Iran getting token gestures in return.

60 days no tolls/fees and Iran has the northern lane used for ships coming inbound into SoH, but once median lane is clear of mines then ships will use that for both inbound and outbound. This also agrees nothing is set in stone till another future joke of agreement between Iran and Oman (USA).

 

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The parties will work to remove naval mines from the central passage of the strait within 30 days. After clearing the central passage, it will be used for incoming and outgoing traffic under the terms of a permanent agreement to be negotiated between the Sultanate of Oman and Iran.

The central passage was what has been used for decades BEFORE the war. So it seems like Iran is agreeing to another stupid deal that will end up giving the enemy everything it wants and Iran getting token gestures in return.

60 days no tolls/fees and Iran has the northern lane used for ships coming inbound into SoH, but once median lane is clear of mines then ships will use that for both inbound and outbound. This also agrees nothing is set in stone till another future joke of agreement between Iran and Oman (USA).

Persian Gulf has become black sea!
The status quo changes when this is concluded. This is a win regardless... Iran cannot allow the status quo ante to return nor allow foreign warships in these waters. It secures the lanes and provides breathing space where none existed.

 

[RzA]

Persian Gulf has become black sea!
The status quo changes when this is concluded. This is a win regardless... Iran cannot allow the status quo ante to return nor allow foreign warships in these waters. It secures the lanes and provides breathing space where none existed.

Read Immortals post above and tell me how it's a win for us.

@Immortals and we lost brave and good men to A-10 and Apache's laying those mines!

 

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Read Immortals post above and tell me how it's a win for us.

@Immortals and we lost brave and good men to A-10 and Apache's laying those mines!

I second you in maintaining the mines... it is all about control at the end of the day... that gets relinquished when Iran will volunteer others to come and remove mines or scale back it's presence. US presence will remain hostile to Iran regardless of any mechanism worked with Oman.

This second round of hostilities wouldn't have even happened had Iran not put it's foot down to stop a parallel US mechanism of operating the straits. Which has been achieved in writing ...
Don't let the apparatus claw it's way back retroactively.

 

[Immortals]

Read Immortals post above and tell me how it's a win for us.

@Immortals and we lost brave and good men to A-10 and Apache's laying those mines!

It’s not a win. Because realistically Iran cannot keep “closing” what is basically a leaky SoH. It’s almost like a drug smuggling border. Everything is still getting thru and every once in a while one drug mule gets caught. That doesn’t change the 50 or so that go thru the days before.

Honestly this is worse deal than the MoU version. It’s saying for 2 months Iran gets no tolls or revenue. Then after all ships use the same lane they have been using for decades

Then in 2 months Iran has to go back to America and negotiate a permanent agreement on the SoH. Which after 2 months SoH traffic will have normalized and Iran won’t be able to close the SoH that easily and the reformists and pragmatists will cry to Mojtaba that it’s too risky to close the SoH.

Also keep in mind Trump will wait till after midterms then say if Iran tries to close the SoH or charge tolls he will bomb them again. Iran will have little leverage. In 3-4 months, US will produce ~400-500 PAC-3’s and reload their defenses ready for another pathetic skirmish by Iran.