Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Jalz]

There is no evidence for that. They tried to hand over the nuclear program in the negotiations until Feb 27.

Because they thought they would military lose. They held out and achieved deterrence through strikes against arab oil.

 

[Magi]

The point is Israel existed and they are wrecking havoc in the middle east. None of this would have happened if they just lived in peace and try to forge peace with its neighbours. Follow the Singapore model.

Whether it sees itself as a western state or not, is not the point. The government need to realise this fast and act decisively because by the time you decide to act, it will be too late to deter Israel.

That's neither here nor there. It would be impossible. Israel is Israel, Singapore is Singapore. The reality is what it is.

Another reality is that Turkey is a western protectorate and will not do a thing against Israel. If it does, it will either experience a coup d'état or a metamorphosis.

 

[OldTwilight]

the status quo is not good for Iran

@muhammed45

Make nukes , then act wild

 

[Magi]

Because they thought they would military lose. They held out and achieved deterrence through strikes against arab oil.

What deterrence? US literally ran out of targets in Iran. All kinds of conventional military and industrial targets have been levelled. From steel to water bottling plants. There is a physical blockade on Iran and oil export is zero while Saudi and UAE freely export oil. Essential imports can't come in. The currency went from 80,000 toman to 1 dollar in Jan 2025 to 190,000 today. And you are talking about deterrence?

 

[Immortals]

That "demand" is artificially caused by low prices. Price liberalization or effective rationing(what russia does despite their refineries being struck) can easily be implemented. Iran could always escalate by opening the tunnels of the Esfahan enrichment facility. If the US wants to attack again be our guest.

Last time iran tried to touch fuel subsidies massive riots broke out that crippled the country for weeks.

 

[Immortals]

Iran is always all talk and no action. They said if Israel ever attacked they would destroy Israel. So far Israel has started two wars and killed countless generals and even the leader of the country and Iran still has truly confront Israel.

Just tiring hearing these fake threats all the time.

 

[Immortals]

14 years later same story different moron.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Jalz]

Last time iran tried to touch fuel subsidies massive riots broke out that crippled the country for weeks.

They don't have to do price liberalization now. Right now they should ration gasoline to each automobile owner and reimplement COVID era "work/school from home" measures. Would be far more efficient than whatever our retarded politicians are doing now.

 

[UberShock]

 

[Kyussis]

Last time iran tried to touch fuel subsidies massive riots broke out that crippled the country for weeks.

Last time it was done over night with no prior warning and El Presidente Rouhani refused to take any responsibility for it.

 

[Flotilla]

This is how it begins. Israel tests the redlines and once they realize you won’t respond they will get more and more brazen.

That is what happened to Iran in Syria. Iranian leadership foolishly accepted that “well Israel attacking us in Syria is a 3rd country and not attacking Iranian soil so it’s fair game” and what did that lead to? Hundreds of strikes on Iranian and Iranian aligned forces and equipment in span of a decade. Eventually the strikes came to Iranian soil either way.

So for Turkey, if it follows the same blind eye to these attacks they will only get worse over time and more frequent.

Turkey needs to do a strong attack on Israeli forces in Golan to send a response. Or else it will lose the deterrence war before it even begins.

Well.
The question is what would Turkey do if israel kills officials and troops in Syria.

Probably Erdogan cabinet would try to avoid the war, but I am not sure. If they don't answer it will amount to a license to kill Turkish soldiers outside Turkish borders—whether in Syria, Sudan, or even Cyprus.

Whatever happens Israel is out of control and even here in Spain many analysts say that Netanyahu must be stop.

 

[Hayabusa]

That's neither here nor there. It would be impossible. Israel is Israel, Singapore is Singapore. The reality is what it is.

Another reality is that Turkey is a western protectorate and will not do a thing against Israel. If it does, it will either experience a coup d'état or a metamorphosis.

Of course they are different countries. I will be ashamed to have them compared directly. But the geopolitical situation is similar. Both surrounded by Muslim countries. Singapore chose a path of peace and interconnectivity with its neighbours and Israel chooses violence.

When the time comes, we will see. It's too early to claim Turkey will not do anything. Even Iran, whom most of us actually referred to as a paper tiger in 2024, stepped it up and took the initiative to strike Israel first. When push comes to shove, Turkey will strike just like 1974.

With all that said, time is running out and hopefully they have prepared and planned out a decisive action against Israel.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Obama / Biden in 2012

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]