Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

That's the playbook and I can definitely see a lot of Iranians getting bribed to betray the irgc when the going gets tough with the sanctions. Thing is, this may take 10 years so america is once again in a long term war that makes Iranians suffer and military industrial complex very happy.

You over estimate how much hardship Iranians will take. This isn't the religious post revolution Iran that was able to stomach Saddam using chemical weapons and bombing cities with SCUDs. The typical Iranian has been pissed off for last 15 years and is well past their breaking point. That’s why you had Gas riots, Mahsa Amini riots, and the January riots all in a span of a several years when before a bad riot was a once every 10-15 year event!

There are people in Iran who have not eaten red meat in MONTHS or YEARS because it’s too expensive. And yet delusional people on here saying Iran has a $2 TRILLION dollar economy (LOL!)

This board has been delusional going back to the old PDF days as well. They never wanted to admit reality on the ground. People were telling me Iran was going to be sinking US ships with its midget subs. Meanwhile Iran cannot even sink an oil tanker right now.

It was clear how they handled Syria File and Lebanon File that Iran and HZ got lucky in 2006 against Israel. Israel spent the next 20 years learning and improving and Iran and HZ spent the next 20 years doing absolutely nothing but the same retarded tactics from the 2000s.

US didn’t attack Iran back then only because the world was much more sensitive to oil prices than today. Iran lost its great leverage by waiting so long to fight an existential war.

Meanwhile, not a single person on here can tell you how Iran can become a prosperous country while still being under sanctions and a pariah in the world economy.

As long as Iran is not prosperous, the riots will continue and eventually one of them will become so bad it will fracture the government and lead to collapse of the system just like Soviet Union and Syria’s Baathist Party collapsed.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

We are all suffering from this idiotic un-necessary war launched by Zio puppet Trump.

The d day is aptly named... except for allies, it is accomplices and accessories. And the path Bessent is forcing on the world is an alternative to US dollar as a conduit for international trade and settlements.
At some point Iran will have to go on offensive against the accomplices and accessories... even by saying that anyone found complying with unilateral US sanctions will not have access to trade via the straits or corridors where Iran has a say. That means entry and exit of their ships through the straits... as an act of secondary sanctions that US is forcing on the world.
Another economic reckoning is cascading towards the midterms as an act of self harm inflicted on US like never before... I won't be surprised if the airlines cut routes and truckers stop operating due to higher costs... paving way for demand destruction... while the inflation rises all across the board.

 

[retaxis]

You over estimate how much hardship Iranians will take. This isn't the religious post revolution Iran that was able to stomach Saddam using chemical weapons and bombing cities with SCUDs. The typical Iranian has been pissed off for last 15 years and is well past their breaking point. That’s why you had Gas riots, Mahsa Amini riots, and the January riots all in a span of a several years when before a bad riot was a once every 10-15 year event!

There are people in Iran who have not eaten red meat in MONTHS or YEARS because it’s too expensive. And yet delusional people on here saying Iran has a $2 TRILLION dollar economy (LOL!)

This board has been delusional going back to the old PDF days as well. They never wanted to admit reality on the ground. People were telling me Iran was going to be sinking US ships with its midget subs. Meanwhile Iran cannot even sink an oil tanker right now.

It was clear how they handled Syria File and Lebanon File that Iran and HZ got lucky in 2006 against Israel. Israel spent the next 20 years learning and improving and Iran and HZ spent the next 20 years doing absolutely nothing but the same retarded tactics from the 2000s.

US didn’t attack Iran back then only because the world was much more sensitive to oil prices than today. Iran lost its great leverage by waiting so long to fight an existential war.

Meanwhile, not a single person on here can tell you how Iran can become a prosperous country while still being under sanctions and a pariah in the world economy.

As long as Iran is not prosperous, the riots will continue and eventually one of them will become so bad it will fracture the government and lead to collapse of the system just like Soviet Union and Syria’s Baathist Party collapsed.

Well yeah i never believed all that bullsh1t about sinking america carrier fleet and taking over the middle east bullsh1t either. Just bunch of hopium.

Lets see what happens in the next few months or years, right now people look like they are too scared to revolt but that might change if they start to see their family suffer. US been sizing up Iran since 2006 and in 2008 financial crisis and hormuz strait controlled 40% of the oil, Iran could have made a good deal back then.

 

[Immortals]

 

[BHAN85]

lol, why dont your country or EU go fight the US. The Iran war affect the energy supplies of your EU much more than China. Instead, being a lapdog of US, collaborating with the US on the war and always kissing up to US. I dont hear you people bashing on EU. Talk of cowardice. They are not Chinas wars, why should China fight, lol ? Think Chinese are fools. Total hypocrite.

Iran war affects mainly Asian countries energy supply.

European leaders are corrupt vassals unworthy piece of crap, who says the opposite? They would kill own people for a one more bribe from USA, like Ukrainian filthy regime does since 2014 Maidan.

But China is sovereign.

The problem of Europe is too little patriotism, the problem of China is too much.

China only (over)reacts to things directly related to Han Chinese people like Taiwan issue.

China money income depends of Hormuz strait, their Asian partners depend of that cheap energy. But Chinese middle ranks are used to care only about Chinese things, and Chinese leaders can't tell to care about Iran or far away things, they wont understand.

 

[retaxis]

Iran war affects mainly Asian countries energy supply.

European leaders are corrupt vassals unworthy piece of crap, who says the opposite? They would kill own people for a one more bribe from USA, like Ukrainian filthy regime does since 2014 Maidan.

But China is sovereign.

The problem of Europe is too little patriotism, the problem of China is too much.

China only (over)reacts to things directly related to Han Chinese people like Taiwan issue.

China money income depends of Hormuz strait, their Asian partners depend of that cheap energy. But Chinese middle ranks are used to care only about Chinese things, and Chinese leaders can't tell to care about Iran or far away things, they wont understand.

China watched america take Iraq and Afghanistan too and how did that work out? China got plenty of oil coming in through pipelines in many central asian countries, russia and a lot of oil from African countries like angola. China is also reducing requirements on oil and gas massively each year and leads the world in electric vehicles and renewable energy and hydro/nuclear power.

China just likes to sit in the beach chair sipping on margaritas watching shit unfold. China doesn't play the game of chess pieces, its not the 19th century anymore lol.

 

[BHAN85]

They will still vote Republican next round because they think Democrats support Trans people, are socialists, and hate God.

They are right.

People fundamentally misunderstand Republican voters just like they misunderstand “Israelis” that are upset with Bibi.

At the end of the day these ultra conservatives will continue to vote Republican every chance they get.

Anyway who cares who they vote, from Iran war point of view.

Libya and Syrian wars were under democrat administration.

Ukrainian war was under democrat and republican administration.

The change of administration doesnt change the war or foreign policy, it only changes the narrative about war.

Change of administration only affect to some little local things, like religious and woke things. So they voting republicans it's the lesser evil for them.

 

[BHAN85]

China watched america take Iraq and Afghanistan too and how did that work out? China got plenty of oil coming in through pipelines in many central asian countries, russia and a lot of oil from African countries like angola. China is also reducing requirements on oil and gas massively each year and leads the world in electric vehicles and renewable energy and hydro/nuclear power.

China just likes to sit in the beach chair sipping on margaritas watching shit unfold. China doesn't play the game of chess pieces, its not the 19th century anymore lol.

I didnt say China needs Hormuz energy, it's their Asian economic partners who needs it. If your customers and suppliers fall in bankruptcy, you too.

 

[retaxis]

I didnt say China needs Hormuz energy, it's their Asian economic partners who needs it. If your customers and suppliers fall in bankruptcy, you too.

Chinas exports grew around 20% more this year than last year so far which is crazy. When money gets tight people buy items with best value for money and that's chinese goods which explains the massive jump in exports this year. The cpc knows what they are doing and chinese people trust them which is why china isn't fazed at all and just watching usa destroy their economy and pop that AI bubble. The war is just icing on the cake.

 

[Immortals]

What is Mojtaba doing these days besides hiding in a cave or under a hospital?



Rezai’s fake redlines continue to get violated day by day.

 

[ety]

Iran war affects mainly Asian countries energy supply.

European leaders are corrupt vassals unworthy piece of crap, who says the opposite? They would kill own people for a one more bribe from USA, like Ukrainian filthy regime does since 2014 Maidan.

But China is sovereign.

The problem of Europe is too little patriotism, the problem of China is too much.

China only (over)reacts to things directly related to Han Chinese people like Taiwan issue.

China money income depends of Hormuz strait, their Asian partners depend of that cheap energy. But Chinese middle ranks are used to care only about Chinese things, and Chinese leaders can't tell to care about Iran or far away things, they wont understand.

Then why the whole of Spain boiled over when Catalonia voted for independence few years ago ? The same goes to Taiwan.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Aryan_B]

There are only 3 possible scenarios to this war:

1. Iran capitulates unconditionally through the reformist government.
2. Iran gets nuked and surrenders unconditionally.
3. A civil war starts in Iran and the people of Iran topple the regime while other countries devour Iran. Whatever remains of Iran will be ruled by the Iranian opposition abroad.

The scenario 2 is very likely because not only it has been discussed officially in the US administration, as recently exposed by Marjorie Green, and previously hinted at by Trump himself and Iranian lawmakers, but it has been the most likely outcome of game theoretic stimulations of a potential Israel-Iran war since 2020.

So, prepare for Iran to get nuked and the idiots here come out and say that Iran doesn't need nuclear weapons. Just like Saddam killed over 100K Iranians with chemical weapons and the "Grand Ayatollah" said chemical weapons were haram and didn't retaliate.

I dont think and I certainly hope nukes are not used on Iran

I think it would give all nuclear license to start using at least tactical nukes