Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[KAL-EL]

@KAL-EL stop the off topic and non constructive replies

And if your post is deleted without a warning it is better if you don’t try to post it again

And what about @tsunset ?!!

He's been saying some pretty outrageous things in this thread and I don't see anything happening to him.

Even if he is pro-iranian and anti-us that shouldn't give him a free pass in this thread.

 

[PapuSalemi]

Just like how Israel struck Iranian sites from within Iran

Cash can buy any person in this world

Maybe US has more cash.

Did you know in Bible Israel people have this cycle, where they forsake their god and then bring themself a calamity. Each time they have calamity they plead god to help them and then god helps them when they promise to be good again and follow the rules god set to them such as: Do Not Kill, Do Not Steal. Then made them ritual to remind about their promise. But every time they forget their promise and start break the rules again.

I do believe they have forsake their god again. They have lost their promise.

But i really wonder why Iran and other in Middle East is fighting. I understand why they fight against Israel. But i do not understand why Iran and Saudi Arab fight.

There is lot of bad things happening in the world today. It really seems like the whole world have gone mad. But i hope love will win in the end and give us better days.

 

[KAL-EL]

israel has no nuclear power plants.

dimona is not a power plant, it's a nuclear research facility, maybe empty.

Okay then they could have easily targeted dimona then.

Regardless, they could have launched 50 maybe even 100 ballistic missiles at Israel. Imagine the damage that would cause tel Aviv and the loss of life

Now of course Israel would strike back fiercely without a doubt. But what's Iran to do?

It has a right to defend itself when Israel is owning the skies and bombarding infrastructure

 

[tsunset]

And what about @tsunset ?!!

He's been saying some pretty outrageous things in this thread and I don't see anything happening to him.

Even if he is pro-iranian and anti-us that shouldn't give him a free pass in this thread.

Every single "outrageous thing" i said in this thread have already been done in real life on Iran by the US

 

[KAL-EL]

Every single "outrageous thing" i said in this thread have already been done in real life on Iran by the US

B******* doesn't matter if someone's making outrageous statements then they should be warned about it regardless of their political or ideological thoughts and feelings

 

[Watandar]

Iranian strikes have damaged hundreds of structures at U.S. bases, watchdog says​

The report by the Pentagon's inspector general also detailed the extent of munitions shortfalls in the first comprehensive public accounting of the cost and military impact of the war with Iran.

Iranian strikes have damaged or destroyed hundreds of buildings and other structures at bases across the Middle East, and caused about $184 million worth of damage at U.S. diplomatic facilities, according to a Pentagon watchdog report.

The inspector general’s report to Congress on Operation Epic Fury — the Trump administration’s name for the war with Iran — also details the extent of U.S. munitions shortages, in the first comprehensive public accounting of the war, which is now in its seventh month.


The report, released Monday, covers operations through June 30. It contains input from the departments of Defense and State and other agencies to provide the most complete picture yet of the cost and military impact of the ongoing conflict.

Buildings and other structures at U.S. bases in Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Oman, and Jordan were damaged or destroyed in the war, the report stated, adding that U.S. diplomatic facilities in Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates also sustained damage.
The mounting costs of the war and impact on U.S. munitions stockpiles has already come under scrutiny. In July, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth told a Senate hearing the war has cost $37.5 billion and defended the administration’s request for a further $67 billion to restock the Pentagon’s arsenal and avoid looming budget shortfalls.

The latest report details how the war has “resulted in strategic inventory shortfalls” of munitions and “revealed industrial base bottlenecks for munitions resupply.”
It said the Defense Department is working to “streamline” procurement and production processes, as well as stockpile critical materials, components and munitions to mitigate the shortage. But while these efforts have begun, the defense industrial base requires “significant lead time” to expand production.
“The most persistent bottlenecks remain in the production of solid rocket motors, the availability of high-grade explosives and propellants, and the recruitment of skilled manufacturing labor,” it states.

The expenditure of U.S. munitions is increasingly worrying U.S. allies and Pentagon officials in the Indo-Pacific region who fear the war in Iran could undermine readiness for a potential conflict with China. The weapons drain has become a source of tension between President Donald Trump and Hegseth, though Trump has denied U.S. weapons are running low.

On Monday Trump touted U.S. weapons stockpiles in a post on Truth Social, saying he had received a report noting the U.S. is producing “more Exquisite and Elite Weapons than at any time in our History” that were being delivered to U.S. forces.
“A primary focus of this production has been Patriots, THAAD Systems, Tomahawks, and other Standard Missile Systems, of which we already have large numbers in stock,” he said.
The Pentagon and the White House did not immediately reply to requests for comment early Tuesday.
The Washington Post reported in May that the U.S. had depleted much of its inventory of advanced missile-defense interceptors, using up roughly half of the Pentagon’s total inventory of Terminal High Altitude Area Defense, or THAAD, interceptors. The U.S. military also fired more than 850 Tomahawk cruise missiles in the first four weeks of war, a rate which has alarmed some Pentagon officials.


The extent of the munitions the U.S. has used during Operation Epic Fury illustrates the “magnitude and complexity” of the challenge posed by Iran, the report said, noting Iran’s large armed forces, extensive underground facilities and decades of building a domestic defense industry.
The U.S. launched Operation Epic Fury on Feb. 28 in joint strikes with Israel that killed Iran’s leader at the time, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. The war has now entered its seventh month, with Iran retaining leverage over the Strait of Hormuz, a critical waterway for oil and gas flows from the Persian Gulf. A recent lightning offensive by Houthi rebels in Yemen, supported by Iran, has threatened to further imperil shipping through the Bab al-Mandab Strait.

Dozens of U.S. aircraft have been damaged or destroyed during the operation, including 4 F-15E fighter jets, one F-35A damaged in enemy fire over Iran and several other aircraft and helicopters, the report said.

More than 50,000 U.S. service members have been deployed throughout U.S. Central Command’s area of responsibility in support of the operation, the watchdog report said. A total of 18 have died, the report said, including several in July. It said 417 service members were wounded between Feb. 28 and June 30.

The State Department has also incurred around $113 million in costs, including nearly $80 million responding to events such as the evacuation of U.S. citizens and State Department personnel, the report said, adding that about 9,000 Americans have left the region on charter flights and buses.

The war has also had an “immediate negative impact” on U.S. assistance across the Middle East, including agriculture, food, health, nutrition and water sanitation, because of the departure of embassy staff, the report said.

 

[BHAN85]

Okay then they could have easily targeted dimona then.

Regardless, they could have launched 50 maybe even 100 ballistic missiles at Israel. Imagine the damage that would cause tel Aviv and the loss of life

Now of course Israel would strike back fiercely without a doubt. But what's the wrong to do? It has a right to defend itself when Israel is owning the skies and bombarding infrastructure

but they already did all that, with little success.

iran missiles with big warheads often were stopped.

missiles with cluster bombs werent not stopped, but it's not dangerous for people in shelters.

dimona is in the middle of a shithole desert with nobody around, and iran doesnt know what is inside now, maybe it's empty.

if iran want to do nuclear contamination in israel big cities, they can develop dirty bombs easily (and israel can too)

iran didnt want to suicide themselves with that kind of attack.

 

[OldTwilight]

Instead of shooting down infinite numbers of MQ-1/9, Iran should bomb production facilities directly inside the US very hard

This is like killing rats but not putting their nest on fire

When we have nukes in enough quantity , we will hit the devil nest

 

[KAL-EL]

but they already did all that, with little success.

iran missiles with big warheads often were stopped.

missiles with cluster bombs werent not stopped, but it's not dangerous for people in shelters.

dimona is in the middle of a shithole desert with nobody around, and iran doesnt know what is inside now, maybe it's empty.

if iran want to do nuclear contamination in israel big cities, they can develop dirty bombs easily (and israel can too)

iran didnt want to suicide themselves with that kind of attack.

Now that I can agree with you on. If Iran did use a dirty bomb Israel would most likely struck back with one of their own or something of equal power.

Thousands if not tens of thousands on both sides would be killed.

 

[lightning f57]

I think we are at the point where the Saudi's would do really well to really go slow on oil sales, go extra slow repairs of its destroyed infra, and actively spike the global oil markets to force the Americans to stop this war now and accept the MOU and for the whole region to move on. They should also close their airspace to all USAF/USN surveillance flights and drones spying on Iran right now in addition to the current restriction of military jets operating out of Saudi.

Saudi should force the USA to operate solely out of Israel/Jordan or UAE( and let UAE be the fall guy ). Reduce USAs options and cadence for itself to restrict USA options etc.

Allowing the Americans to have breathing space to plan another war against Iran after the elections is not in Saudi's best interest at all right now as Iran will not relent, and Iran will in turn destroy Saudi's infrastructure which is not in Saudi's best interests.

What you say is logical and what good leaders should do.

If MBS doesn't do anything like this you know his ego is telling him he can get a better result which means he becomes as deluded as trump.

 

[Zhuge Liang]

Not until their production sites are razed to the ground and leveled

You can't stop a rat infestation without removing the nest, they will just come back in a year or two

Disarming the US is the only solution to this problem

The US had ~185 MQ-9s before the war. Now they have 135 so they lost 50. New ones cannot be produced. The US already has severely crippled long range recon capacity and they also lost an MQ-4C Triton some months ago, an ultra specialized maritime recon UAV that is literally more expensive than an F-35.

 

[PapuSalemi]

This definitely does not seem good.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

The US had ~185 MQ-9s before the war. Now they have 135 so they lost 50. New ones cannot be produced. The US already has severely crippled long range recon capacity and they also lost an MQ-4C Triton some months ago, an ultra specialized maritime recon UAV that is literally more expensive than an F-35.

I'll disagree with your assessment regarding long range recon capacity.

 

[Zhuge Liang]

I'll disagree with your assessment regarding long range recon capacity.

No problem with that on my part.

 

[030292]

Apparently arab military leaders held a secret meeting with usa and israeli leaders and the conclusion is that they are gonna double down on the american bases remaining in their countries.

"The forest was shrinking, but the trees kept voting for the axe, for the axe was clever and convinced the trees that because his handle was made of wood he was one of them"