Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Ali_Baba]

I have a feeling the Zionazis might be willing to risk it more, however that will present Iran with greater opportunity of shootdowns. The bombs being delivered are likely dumb bombs so the Zionazis will have no choice but to fly deep into Iranian airspace. Iranians better be ready for it.

Those dumb bombs are for Lebanon, Syria, West Bank and maybe even Turkiye/Egypt at a stretch. Next genocide is incoming.

 

[IceCold]

All the more reason Iran should have immediately retaliated fiercely. Sure it launched a few missiles here and there

In the end, it didn't amount to much.

Of course we have to take Israel's retaliation into the equation. If thousands of them were killed Trump wouldn't be able to hold them back anymore.

They would inflict Mass casualties on the other side too

Remember they have second strike capability and the Samson option which I hope by the way never happens

I can only assume that Iran was hauling for a long run as this has been proven that the conflict does not seem to end anytime soon. Yes Israel does have a 2nd strike capability but between the 2 sides, I don't think Israel can win over Iran in a nuclear exchange due to the nature of their size.
I am not bringing in the US, whether the US would actually used their own nuclear weapons as well or not, what would have been the opinion of the American public and whether or not Congress could restrict Trump over use of nuclear weapons.
There had been some news previously where trump wanted to use tactical weapons but was opposed.

 

[KAL-EL]

I can only assume that Iran was hauling for a long run as this has been proven that the conflict does not seem to end anytime soon. Yes Israel does have a 2nd strike capability but between the 2 sides, I don't think Israel can win over Iran in a nuclear exchange due to the nature of their size.
I am not bringing in the US, whether the US would actually used their own nuclear weapons as well or not, what would have been the opinion of the American public and whether or not Congress could restrict Trump over use of nuclear weapons.
There had been some news previously where trump wanted to use tactical weapons but was opposed.

Israel is essentially a one bomb state. However the Israelis have second strike capability.

If Israel's going to go down they're going to drag most of the Middle East with them. They will activate the Samson option

Millions of Christians and Muslims will be killed

Let's certainly hope it doesn't come to that

Iran has depth, a lot more than israel. However if Israel does have nuclear weapons and uses them it could still kill millions of Iranians

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Israel is essentially a one bomb state. However the Israelis have second strike capability.

If Israel's going to go down they're going to drag most of the Middle East with them. They will activate the Samson option

Millions of Christians and Muslims will be killed

Let's certainly hope it doesn't come to that

Iran has depth, a lot more than israel. However if Israel does have nuclear weapons and uses them it could still kill millions of Iranians

what goes around, comes around!

 

[Flotilla]

If Israel's going to go down they're going to drag most of the Middle East with them. They will activate the Samson option

In few months Irán will have "Zulfiqar" option also.
It is a matter of time.
As clear as the Sun will rise tomorrow. Everyone knows it and even Trump is pointing in his speeches to that option.

 

[Flotilla]

I believe the UAE has some sort of agreement with Iran regarding oil.

On one hand, Iran does not attack its oil facilities or ships (with a few exceptions to create a smokescreen), and in return, the UAE ships Iranian crude out through the Strait of Hormuz, bound for the West.

This type of arrangement would reconcile the fact that significant amounts of crude are leaving through the Strait, Iran's reluctance to attack the UAE, and the flights from the UAE to Tehran or Karaj—which likely involve hard-currency payments to Tehran.

If there are further flights from the UAE to Tehran in the coming months, the signs will become more obvious.

 

[KAL-EL]

In few months Irán will have "Zulfiqar" option also.
It is a matter of time.
As clear as the Sun will rise tomorrow. Everyone knows it and even Trump is pointing in his speeches to that option.

Okay and? It still doesn't stop the Israelis with their second strike capability.

 

[OldTwilight]

Okay and? It still doesn't stop the Israelis with their second strike capability.

Our first strike is enough to obliterate Israel

 

[KAL-EL]

Our first strike is enough to obliterate Israel

Do you even know what second strike capability is? It's to ensure that even if a country is wiped out it will be able to launch its own nuclear weapons.

The US, Russia and China also have second strike capability but on a much bigger scale obviously

 

[KAL-EL]

Do you even know that Iran is 100 times larger than Israel with a super mountainous terrain? One strategic nuke would wipe half of Israel off the map. It's literally a flat shit-stain on the map.

There's no argument Israel would not survive a nuclear attack. But you make it sound like it would be a one way attack.

Israel will launch a Samson option and basically make most of the Middle East uninhabitable and killing millions of Muslims and Christians.

Iran has a lot more depth than Israel but a few nukes could destroy Tehran and other cities killing millions of Iranians

It might be wise to remember that before acting like it would be a one-way attack
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One does not nuke another nuclear armed country in a vacuum. this isn't some video game

 

[ShapurII]

There's no argument Israel would not survive a nuclear attack. But you make it sound like it would be a one way attack.

Israel will launch a Samson option and basically make most of the Middle East uninhabitable and killing millions of Muslims and Christians.

Iran has a lot more depth than Israel but a few nukes could destroy Tehran and other cities killing millions of Iranians

It might be wise to remember that before acting like it would be a one-way attack

I read your earlier post and retracted my comment. You'd already discussed what I had said.

Honestly, the Sampson option is nonsense. They can target population centers around the world, but making the entire Middle East inhabitable is nonsense.

Even Iran alone won't become inhabitable with just 200 nukes, even if all of them have the yield of the Tsar bomb

And what do you think will be the consequence of that for Israel and the Jews? Sure, they can target all major population centers of Iran, Middle East and Europe with their nukes. But if Israel uses the Samson option, not only every Israeli will be killed, but I'm sure the rest of the world will make sure that not even a single Jew will remain alive after that.

 

[KAL-EL]

I read your earlier post and retracted my comment. You'd already discussed what I had said.

Honestly, the Sampson option is nonsense. They can target population centers around the world, but making the entire Middle East inhabitable is nonsense.

Even Iran alone won't become inhabitable with just 200 nukes, even if all of them have the yield of the Tsar bomb

And what do you think will be the consequence of that for Israel and the Jews? If Israel uses the Samson option, not only every Israeli will be killed, but I'm sure the rest of the world will make sure that not even a single Jew will remain alive after that.

Israel would only use the Samsung option as of last resort. And yes, a lot of the Middle East would become uninhabitable.

And I'll repeat what I said, millions of Muslims and Christians would die.

You got to stay in the real world man. This isn't some video game. We're talking millions of lives.

Anyway this is all talk anyway as I don't see anything like that happening anytime soon. Mutually assured destruction.