Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

No, it won't. Even the radiation radius of the Tsar bomb, hundreds of them, won't cover the entire Iran. Let alone the entire Middle East. And the Tsar bomb has the highest yield of all nuclear bombs ever tested at 50 megatons. Most of the Israeli arsenal will not even get close to 1 megatons probably, probably a few hundred kilotons at best for each warhead. And we're assuming it detonates at a high altitude for maximum radiation.


And? All Jews will die too.


You said it yourself. It's a worst case scenario.

That's right. It's a worst case scenario. Israel would only use nukes if it was going to be destroyed. Essentially taking as many people with them as possible .
And sorry to disappoint you, but I don't want anyone to die no matter who they are.


Iran as a country would be intact, but it's a major cities would be destroyed and as I said already millions of Iranians would be dead

Essentially we're talking MAD here. No one would come out of this unscathed..

I mean we could keep going round and round here but it's really not accomplishing anything
 
Military targets parked in Israel's airbase that are planning to strike Iran? F-35s, F-15s, tankers ammunition depot and runways. The focus should be on these targets.



Target key airbases like Nevatim, Hatzerim, Tel Nof, and Ramon with a calculated barrage of roughly 50 missiles delivered in four distinct waves offers the best chance at penetration.

The assault should begin with older saturation platforms like the Ghadr or Emad series to draw out defenses.

Once the defensive grid is occupied, follow up with high-end hypersonic and precision assets, specifically the Kheibar Shekan or Fattah series.

Incorporating Khorramshahr cluster munitions early on will widen the strike area across the airfields while rapidly burning through the defender's active interceptor inventory.

Given the current logistical strain on local air defenses, keeping up a sustained interception rate will be nearly impossible once those missiles have to reload.

If Iran managed to cause real destruction during the 12-day war when defense systems were fully loaded, there is no reason to believe they would be unable to inflict serious damage this time around under depleted conditions.

Iran has also taken the initiative to strike first. So I don't see why they cannot do it again.



I am confident they still have plenty of launchers available, especially considering how they have managed to strike bases in Jordan with impunity even after nearly seven months of continuous conflict. At this point, any operational bottleneck comes down to a shortage of actual missiles rather than a lack of launchers.



That is ultimately up to the Houthis to decide. From my perspective, they are currently tied up with Saudi Arabia, so we should not expect too much heavy lifting from them right now. The real expectation is for Iran to step up and take the initiative and they will remain the primary focus of my argument.




Drones are essentially off the table for deep strikes due to the extreme distance, unless they manage to acquire and deploy a jet-powered variant like the Geran-5. Even if long-range drones are utilized, their deployment makes far more sense against nearby regional assets, such as Israeli staging areas or launch pads in Erbil.



Ultimately, my analysis revolves around Iran taking the initiative. Israel is no longer pulling its punches and is already showing clear signs of escalating the conflict. While I can offer strategic assessments, the final choices rest entirely with Iranian leadership. The operational approach here mirrors a basic street fight. You do not sit back and wait for the adversary to throw a sucker punch but instead bring the fight directly to their doorstep by throwing the first punch.

And that's why Iran should have struck back immediately. But all it did was launch a few missiles here and there

They had a chance to launch a lot of ballistic missiles at Israel and cause major damage

They didn't..
 
The House on Tuesday passed a Democratic-backed war powers resolution that would limit President Trump’s military actions in Iran.

It was the third time the House has passed a similar war powers resolution, but the number of Republicans in support increased from four to seven.


Pointless resolution that will not do anything to change the behaviour of the executive. As I have said before, the USA is not a true democracy with checks and balances that are enforced, it is not a democracy of "laws".
 
That's right. It's a worst case scenario. Israel would only use nukes if it was going to be destroyed. Essentially taking as many people with them as possible .
And sorry to disappoint you, but I don't want anyone to die no matter who they are.


Iran as a country would be intact, but it's a major cities would be destroyed and as I said already millions of Iranians would be dead

Essentially we're talking MAD here. No one would come out of this unscathed..

I mean we could keep going round and round here but it's really not accomplishing anything
Sure, it doesn't take much to destroy major Iranian cities for Israel. Millions of people will be killed immediately right after the attack.
Millions will die because the Iranian healthcare system will collapse after getting flooded with patients requiring immediate treatment. So, yeah.

But Israel knows that it is not in a position to launch a nuclear war with Iran. So, if Iran acquires nuclear weapons, Israel will not attack Iran first because it is much more vulnerable than Iran is.

That's why nuclear deterrence for Iran can lead to the end of the US-Iran war and coexistence between Iran and Israel. The US may pursue economic pressure, but Iran can counter that with the destruction of energy resources in the region until both sides agree that they should negotiate and resolve their issues diplomatically.
 
After Meraj Airlines, Mahan Airlines is the next Iranian carrier that cancels all its flights to Turkey after September 22nd.
 
Military targets parked in Israel's airbase that are planning to strike Iran? F-35s, F-15s, tankers ammunition depot and runways. The focus should be on these targets.



Target key airbases like Nevatim, Hatzerim, Tel Nof, and Ramon with a calculated barrage of roughly 50 missiles delivered in four distinct waves offers the best chance at penetration.

The assault should begin with older saturation platforms like the Ghadr or Emad series to draw out defenses.

Once the defensive grid is occupied, follow up with high-end hypersonic and precision assets, specifically the Kheibar Shekan or Fattah series.

Incorporating Khorramshahr cluster munitions early on will widen the strike area across the airfields while rapidly burning through the defender's active interceptor inventory.

Given the current logistical strain on local air defenses, keeping up a sustained interception rate will be nearly impossible once those missiles have to reload.

If Iran managed to cause real destruction during the 12-day war when defense systems were fully loaded, there is no reason to believe they would be unable to inflict serious damage this time around under depleted conditions.

Iran has also taken the initiative to strike first. So I don't see why they cannot do it again.



I am confident they still have plenty of launchers available, especially considering how they have managed to strike bases in Jordan with impunity even after nearly seven months of continuous conflict. At this point, any operational bottleneck comes down to a shortage of actual missiles rather than a lack of launchers.



That is ultimately up to the Houthis to decide. From my perspective, they are currently tied up with Saudi Arabia, so we should not expect too much heavy lifting from them right now. The real expectation is for Iran to step up and take the initiative and they will remain the primary focus of my argument.




Drones are essentially off the table for deep strikes due to the extreme distance, unless they manage to acquire and deploy a jet-powered variant like the Geran-5. Even if long-range drones are utilized, their deployment makes far more sense against nearby regional assets, such as Israeli staging areas or launch pads in Erbil.



Ultimately, my analysis revolves around Iran taking the initiative. Israel is no longer pulling its punches and is already showing clear signs of escalating the conflict. While I can offer strategic assessments, the final choices rest entirely with Iranian leadership. The operational approach here mirrors a basic street fight. You do not sit back and wait for the adversary to throw a sucker punch but instead bring the fight directly to their doorstep by throwing the first punch.
Arash drones can reach Israel
 
Arash drones can reach Israel

I never said they couldn't reach their targets. My point is that sending them against Israel feels like a total waste of equipment. Given how small Israel is geostrategically, their air defense coverage is just too dense, making those drones far too easy to pick off. If you actually want to breach a multi-layered defense system like theirs, relying on raw speed will increase the chances.

Unless of course you want this drones to drain off their interceptors.
 
I am confident they still have plenty of launchers available, especially considering how they have managed to strike bases in Jordan with impunity even after nearly seven months of continuous conflict. At this point, any operational bottleneck comes down to a shortage of actual missiles rather than a lack of launchers.
Keep in mind that launchers are, above all, civilian heavy trucks that are modified to act like launchers. Moreover, It is easier to assemble launchers than missiles.
Any industrial heavy duty workshop anywhere in Irán could be easily adapted to assembly line to build launchers, unlike missile complex that need extensive investment in chemicals and security equipment.

I agree completely with the rest. Israel will be wiped out just with conventional missile forces.
 
I never said they couldn't reach their targets. My point is that sending them against Israel feels like a total waste of equipment. Given how small Israel is geostrategically, their air defense coverage is just too dense, making those drones far too easy to pick off. If you actually want to breach a multi-layered defense system like theirs, relying on raw speed will increase the chances.

Unless of course you want this drones to drain off their interceptors.
More draining interceptors
 
Ye i can see Israel quaking in their boots with Iranian strikes. Posts talking about obliterating are just a waste of energy. Calm down with the 62 inch chest and lets get real,
If 200 warheads of K-4 BM simultaneously land in Dimona, Israel will be done. Given that Israel is sacred for Anglo and the Evangelical Zionists, it must be done when the worst case scenario takes place.
 
Heading to the airport so last one I just noticed this diesel last week was hovering over 5
 

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