Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[030292]

Suicidal or not. I'm trying to look at it from Iran's point of view. Two extremely powerful adversaries bombing the living hell out of me destroying infrastructure and killing many of my leaders and scientists

Could possibly be an existential threat. In that mindset, Iran has the right to do anything in its disposal to defend itself

I think Iran recognized from the very beginning that this war will last at least as long as the iraq invasion by the usa thus they used their ammunition accordingly to last longer to keep causing damage, unlike gulf states and to some extent USA who depleted all their defensive and offensive(usa) missile stockpiles in the first couple of months of war and gcc puppets were not even part of the war to begin with

 

[030292]

For example, if Iran shot 100 ballistic missiles at Israel, no way in hell. Does any defense stop a lot of them

A lot of those ballistic mixals would cause a lot of damage to tel Aviv

Thus, thus raising the deterrence level

for missiles to reach tel aviv they first have to fly over usa puppet states in gcc who were more than happy to shot them down, sometimes i think these gcc countries do more to defend israelies than even the israelies, they needed a good beating to knock sense into them.

 

[UKBengali]

for missiles to reach tel aviv they first have to fly over usa puppet states in gcc who were more than happy to shot them down, sometimes i think these gcc countries do more to defend israelies than even the israelies, they needed a good beating to knock sense into them.

They have no capability to shoot down Iranian MRBM/IRBM as only Zio-US had the interceptors that could do that job.


Also the Iranians by late March/early April had destroyed most of the radars based in Arab states, to provide early warning and tracking data used to shoot down their missiles fired against Zionist targets in Palestine.

 

[030292]

They have no capability to shoot down Iranian MRBM/IRBM as only Zio-US had the interceptors that could do that job.


Also the Iranians by late March/early April had destroyed most of the radars based in Arab states, to provide early warning and tracking data used to shoot down their missiles fired against Zionist targets in Palestine.

most of the usa bases in the gcc countries had patriots and thaads paid for by gcc, no? instead of defending their own countries they were used to defend israel, where were these state of the art air defence systems when israel unloaded LORA missiles on their capital doha just last year despite qatar acting as the de-facto hq of centcom?

 

[UKBengali]

most of the usa bases in the gcc countries had patriots and thaads paid for by gcc, no? instead of defending their own countries they were used to defend israel, where were these state of the art air defence systems when israel unloaded LORA missiles on their capital doha just last year despite qatar acting as the de-facto hq of centcom?

Only Jordan had useful THAAD and that was a US supplied one to protect Zionist entity. Iran managed to take the radar out and so massively degraded at least, unless US was able to feed data from its own radars in Palestine.

THAAD in KSA and UAE was useless to protect Zionists.

Qatar also ordered THAAD but no idea when it will get the first system.

 

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[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

 

[Master Chief]

Truth be told, Iran would have had momentum when the Israelis and U.S. first started bombing the hell out of them.
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And what I mean is they should have struck back hard. Just a few missiles towards tel Aviv. Isn't striking back hard

You've said this several times. Theoretically absolutely spot on - I agree. But practically, firing all missiles at Israel while all those lovely radars are up in the intervening Arab nations, om American bases, and on NATO airborne monitors, all of which are providing an early warning shield to Israel - is called pissing in the wind. Iran had to target these peripherals first....and probably still has to, before then depleting the interceptors, before finally being able to strike. In a round-about way, Tel Aviv's multilayered defence (the bits actually provided by everyone but Israelis) works well.

 

[Immortals]

 

[UKBengali]

You've said this several times. Theoretically absolutely spot on - I agree. But practically, firing all missiles at Israel while all those lovely radars are up in the intervening Arab nations, om American bases, and on NATO airborne monitors, all of which are providing an early warning shield to Israel - is called pissing in the wind. Iran had to target these peripherals first....and probably still has to, before then depleting the interceptors, before finally being able to strike. In a round-about way, Tel Aviv's multilayered defence (the bits actually provided by everyone but Israelis) works well.

I think you have kind of missed the point.

Iran has far more missiles than Zio-US has interceptors and they needed 2 interceptors to reliably intercept a single Iranian MRBM/IRBM.


They should have went 'all-in" by hitting Zionist entity and not in effect wasted any of their longer range missiles in hitting US.

The key to winning is to hurt the Zionist entity badly enough that it calls off its attack dog the US.

PS - Also what was using precision missiles to hit Tel-Aviv with cluster bombs all about when they should have went for critical infrastructure like oil refineries and desalination plants?

 

[Master Chief]

I think you have kind of missed the point.

Iran has far more missiles than Zio-US has interceptors and they needed 2 interceptors to reliably intercept a single Iranian MRBM/IRBM.


They should have went 'all-in" by hitting Zionist entity and not in effect wasted any of their longer range missiles in hitting US.

The key to winning is to hurt the Zionist entity badly enough that it calls off its attack dog the US.

PS - Also what was using precision missiles to hit Tel-Aviv with cluster bombs all about when they should have went for critical infrastructure like oil refineries and desalination plants?

Well, then the massive immediate response becomes a limiting factor, as some have inferred. Israel will eventually rebuild with phull sapport. Who will even be able to help Iran rebuild following a massive conventional series of strikes on commercial /life sustaining infrastructure targets?

But I take your points on the possible effectiveness of a massive Iranian strike on day 1.

 

[030292]

Looking more and more likely there will be boots on the ground but in the age of drone warfare its akin to playing russian roulette, even the casualty numbers of vietnam war would pale in comparison, the jews have such a strong hold on the american establishment that they are willing to send their young men in the meat grinder just for the israel.

 

[KAL-EL]

You've said this several times. Theoretically absolutely spot on - I agree. But practically, firing all missiles at Israel while all those lovely radars are up in the intervening Arab nations, om American bases, and on NATO airborne monitors, all of which are providing an early warning shield to Israel - is called pissing in the wind. Iran had to target these peripherals first....and probably still has to, before then depleting the interceptors, before finally being able to strike. In a round-about way, Tel Aviv's multilayered defence (the bits actually provided by everyone but Israelis) works well.

Yes I have said it several times. I've meant it every single time.

That being said I appreciate your layered response

 

[muhammed45]

Who cares what Trump says the fact of manner is Iran has lost control of the Strait.

From the virtually no oil flows leaving during March, to the 5MBPD-7MBPD leaving in June. To the 7MBPD-10MBPD leaving in August, to now where there is 10MBPD-15MBPD leaving region.

It’s clear as day Iran either can’t enforce a strait closure or has chosen not to. There is now tankers leaving in the middle of the day thru Oman just challenging Iran to strike them.

$100 oil isn’t going to make Trump capitulate to Iran. US tolerated $130+ in 2022 when Russia invaded Ukraine and still sanctioned Russian oil and refused to negotiate with Russian demands to end the war.

Iran has a LONG way to go to put economic pressure on the U.S. meanwhile Iran’s borders are increasingly closing and even Turkey is turning away Iranian airlines.

Who cares? Really? That pedophile is your president and literally commander of all of your armed forces. And Btw, don't forget this