Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

But @Immortals states confidently that SoH is as open as Amsterdam!

Keep thinking the Strait is closed when satellite shows ships loading oil in Persian Gulf and exiting in day time.

Iran hitting 1 ship every few days (at best) isn’t going to stop it. And Iran lying when ships hit mines and blow up doesn’t work either. There is satellites that pass over the strait multiple times a day.

Just embarrassing people want to deny reality. This trend started in July and kept getting worse as weeks went by.

Iran has lost control of the Strait. It’s basically Somali pirates now, every once in a while it will hit something, but even that capability has been reduced.

 

[Professor Jiang]

 

[PakAl]

Iran needs to win time (3-4 years) to master the technology of IR-9 centrifuge and build a cascade.

With IR-9 centrifuge it will be impossible to stop the Iranian nuclear program, while Iran can use the technology to build small but highly efficient enrichment facilities that will be nearly impossible to locate.

With IR-9 Iran can enrich uranium 50 times faster than with IR-1 and eventually build a nuclear bomb, while US will not be able to destroy the nuclear program.

Iran leadership and the whole world knew during Iraqi and Afghanistan invasion that Iran will be the final target of Usa/Israel and GCC allies, the same way Libya under Gaddafi and Syria under Bashar Al Assad knew the war was coming, Usa politicians even made it clear. So if Iran failed to make nukes in the last 25 years then what can make a person believe they need 3-4 more years to achieve this. Its either Iran already has 30+ nukes or its game over for Iran, Iran possibly is keeping it quiet because their main rival Israel also is quiet but posseses 300+ nukes. We will find out with the outcome of this war imposed on Iran.

 

[PakAl]

This will be the last war waged by the west in China’s backyard.

US and NATO countries are backrupt.

There’s no avenues to rebuilding their finances.

Ageing population and collapsing industrial base means retreating into their continent.

I pray that's true but Usa and Europe will never abandoned their golden eagle Israel. If Middleeast is actually China backyard, all China has to do is make a formal threat that they will restore order in the middleeast, watch how all wars will stop. But so far Usa Israel Saudi Arabia alliance is untouchable in the middleeast.

 

[Immortals]

The siege continues to tighten around Iran. Only a matter of time before protests start again.

Iran needs to escalate instead of trying to be patient about everything.

 

[PakAl]

The Shiah arc is holding.

Our only hope of booting the US out.

Sunnis need to flush out Wahabism to restore Sunni pride.

Wahabis sold out to the west and then exported their backwards ness and subservience to other Muslim countries.

But instead wahabism is increasing in the sunni world via Saudi funding and dirty politics. The reason is wahabism is a religious, political and financial movement, the one that aligns with the western world type of world order.

 

[Immortals]

Qalibaf back to making empty threats. Everyone is exporting oil (including the Iraqis), the only country NOT exporting significant amounts of oil (and possibly zero oil) are the Iranians.

 

[GWXP]

The siege continues to tighten around Iran. Only a matter of time before protests start again.

Iran needs to escalate instead of trying to be patient about everything.

Why Iranians should care much about currency exchange rate?

Iran is an autarky - it produces most of what it consumes domestically and all these is purchased with rial.

Iran only imports some wheat and rice and this can be imported from Russia via the Caspian Sea or from China via land routes.

The same China and Russia land routes can be used to import some spare parts for heavy industry and some raw materials.

Of course Iranian economy will not grow in current conditions, but Iran can survive the blockade by importing necessary goods via land routes and via the Caspian Sea.

 

[Flotilla]

Keep thinking the Strait is closed when satellite shows ships loading oil in Persian Gulf and exiting in day time.

Iran hitting 1 ship every few days (at best) isn’t going to stop it. And Iran lying when ships hit mines and blow up doesn’t work either. There is satellites that pass over the strait multiple times a day.

Just embarrassing people want to deny reality. This trend started in July and kept getting worse as weeks went by.

Iran has lost control of the Strait. It’s basically Somali pirates now, every once in a while it will hit something, but even that capability has been reduced.

Did IRGC aerospace forces nearly hit again a carrier in the Indian ocean hundreds of miles away with a Qasem Basir missile?.

What makes you think Irán cannot hit each one of these oilers passing just 20 miles away in the Straits of Hormuz?.

When you curse the reformists—who are certainly making fools of themselves in New York—you must bear in mind that the IRGC also appear to be playing the same game of containment.

 

[BHAN85]

imagine such meeting, snowjewwhite and the 10 little goyim dwarfs

 

[Immortals]

 

[BHAN85]

and war would make win to bibi?

with sleepless israelis running to the shelter each night?

 

[Watandar]