Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[r3alist]

You guys, on the other side, cannot hold a diametrically contradictory assertion simultaneously.

You say, “SoH blockade is ineffective because your data shows oil flow is back to pre war levels”.

Then say, “can Iran enforce the blockade indefinitely without pushback from third countries?”

Which one is it, bro?

When you make your mind up - I will reply to you.

Bro, it's kind of both

Oil can simultaneously flow yet Iran can maintain a disruptor capability, it's not a zero or everything binary

So to my mind, and it's fair to question strategy, what's the decisive win from blocking the waterways, and is the target even Israel anymore? They have regrouped


these feel like cards to save Iran the nation state


I think the mix of missiles, waterway disruption, proxies and nuclear ambiguity that made them powerful are eroding to some extent, the world is still running though at more cost still running, Israel is even more ambitious and tolling cannot be enforced for years in my opinion

 

[KingQamaR]

I see your point but I believe destruction is an objective in itself

when the monarchists failed the Israeli pov was well let's just see what damage we can do, maybe set Iran back 15 to 20 years, arresting development of Iran, that's an outcome


Trump played his role well in the end, he sold American maga base out just when everyone was convinced he was the one, sure there is grumbling about oil economy bit it can be weathered

The Iranians are willing to suffer a lot more bother , it’s existential for them.

Outcome of this war will be costly for coward puppets in the GCC monarchies & WASHINGTON

Hormuz is literally now Iran’s. There is no chance America is taking Hormuz back.

Iranians have every right to use Hormuz for it to pay for the rebuild of damage done to their country by US and its allies bombing.

 

[Immortals]

 

[r3alist]

The Iranians are willing to suffer a lot more bother , it’s existential for them.

Outcome of this war will be costly for coward puppets in the GCC monarchies & WASHINGTON

Hormuz is literally now Iran’s. There is no chance America is taking Hormuz back.

Iranians have every right to use Hormuz for it to pay for the rebuild of damage done to their country by US and its allies bombing.

I get their willingness to accept suffer and sacrifice, as a civilizational memory

I get that they have been enduring longer and that they are unified

Sometimes your own bravery can work against you

this time they are not exporting the war they are facing the war, it's a different stress

If they rely on Russian surveillance one day they could get snaked as Russia sell out Iran for something

The Makkah treaty is here and it cannot or likely will not leave provocation unanswered forever

China keeps it's risk exposure in check, we know this

How much can they maximally earn even? And what type of national future do they want where they are frozen out the world but have toll fees

And what about the revolution and proxies

 

[BananaRepublic]

Bro, it's kind of both

Oil can simultaneously flow yet Iran can maintain a disruptor capability, it's not a zero or everything binary

So to my mind, and it's fair to question strategy, what's the decisive win from blocking the waterways, and is the target even Israel anymore? They have regrouped


these feel like cards to save Iran the nation state


I think the mix of missiles, waterway disruption, proxies and nuclear ambiguity that made them powerful are eroding to some extent, the world is still running though at more cost still running, Israel is even more ambitious and tolling cannot be enforced for years in my opinion

The question that should be asked is whether US can and will keep this up for years?

The answer is an emphatic, NO.

Trump will try one more time after mid terms - this time scorched earth - Iran needs to respond in kind - then this shit show is over after January.

If Iran can hold on until January it will win a decisive victory.

If you guys disagree with my prediction - you are welcome to register it here - we don’t have to wait long to find out.

All other musings are nonsense, tbh.

Cards on the table time, eh!

 

[r3alist]

The question that should be asked is whether US can and will keep this up for years?

The answer is an emphatic, NO.

Trump will try one more time after mid terms - this time scorched earth - Iran needs to respond in kind - then this shit show is over after January.

If Iran can hold on until January it will win a decisive victory.

If you guys disagree with my prediction - you are welcome to register it here - we don’t have to wait long to find out.

All other musings are nonsense, tbh.

Cards on the table time, eh!

Bro, maybe you could be right.

Both sides have regrouped so you are right let's await this morbid second round of war

On a side note, trump is the great white hope that deceived.... quite an act he put on


I don't think American political calculus is very strong here, in the sense he will soon have no one to appease

I don't know what Iran can do decisively, I don't know what is needed to get the decisive upper hand, it's worth observing Russia has taken the gloves off with Ukraine and they are involved in Iran.

 

[Immortals]

 

[BananaRepublic]

Bro, maybe you could be right.

Both sides have regrouped so you are right let's await this morbid second round of war

On a side note, trump is the great white hope that deceived.... quite an act he put on


I don't think American political calculus is very strong here, in the sense he will soon have no one to appease

I don't know what Iran can do decisively, I don't know what is needed to get the decisive upper hand, it's worth observing Russia has taken the gloves off with Ukraine and they are involved in Iran.

Iran has the capability to send the GCC and Arabs to the Stone Age.

Granted this will also send Iran to the Stone Age.

The real enemy is not Israel. The real enemy of Muslims are the colluding Arabs and Gulfies.

Anyway, Iranians’ superior intellect means they can rise from the ashes as masters with the Arabs taking their traditional role as puppets.

Of all the masters Arabs have had - Turks and Persians have been the most benevolent.

It’s clear Arabs don’t have the backbones to standup without masters.

As Muslims, we need to ensure those masters are Muslim instead of Judeo Christians.

 

[r3alist]

The real enemy is not Israel. The real enemy of Muslims are the colluding Arabs and Gulfies.

Come again?
When did this happen?

It’s clear Arabs don’t have the backbones to standup without masters.

As Muslims,

Your attitude towards Arabs doesn't sound very godly

I don't know why Arabs are now the laser focus of this, they have no agency but blamed for everything


And then who do you favour between the Turks and the Iranians

 

[BHAN85]

— / NEW: The USS George H.W. Bush has left the CENTCOM area of operations

That leaves only the USS George Washington in the Middle East.

The USS Roosevelt is currently on its way from San Diego to CENTCOM, and will arrive in November.

@Middle_East_Spectator

They are going to Thailand, to bang ladyboys.

Only 6 months deployed in the gulf.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

 

[BananaRepublic]

Come again?
When did this happen?



Your attitude towards Arabs doesn't sound very godly

I don't know why Arabs are now the laser focus of this, they have no agency but blamed for everything


And then who do you favour between the Turks and the Iranians

Despite the black gold gifted to them by god…

They have no agency?

You made my point, bro!

Do they also not have the agency to treat fellow Muslims from poorer countries as scums?

Let’s be honest here! Those same Muslims get treated better in the west.

Hence my point about the “real enemies”.