Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

hussain0216 said:
That's ridiculous

Diplomatic tightrope walking is a skill

Pakistan protects it's OWN INTERESTS first


Pakistan has taken on the USSR, USA, NATO and India in Afghanistan and elsewhere to defend it's strategic interests

Their are no holy cows for Pakistan, just strategic interests

And overtime they have better understood the nature of states Including the U.S

Pakistan is dependent on trade and can't just disregard the U.S, GCC or anyone else

Pakistan and the Pakistani people are positive towards Iran
We do not want iran harmed

We have a positive relations with most nations and can play that mediator role because we have built up trust




Iran needs to get ready, the U.S and Israel expended their missile arsenal and ran low

They just bide their time, rebuild stocks and then attack again

Economic pain is the biggest weapon Iran has but it will time to play out and Iran has to be able to fight back

Hopefully Iran has been able to build missiles and drones in the last few months
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The Pak national perspective is not respected, leave it at that

Perpetually judging the whole world.
 
America's ultimate martial might serves but to terrorize such weakened and desolate realms as beleaguered Iraq under the sword of sanction, and Syria, and Libya—verily, a Goliath fit only for the crushing of ruined flies. Yet against us, she is but a common thug of the empty alleys, a swaggering street-corner ruffian with naught but bravado. That absurd sobriquet, *Mother of All Bombs*, as the Iranian commander so deftly dubbed it, shall be answered by the *Father of All Iranian Missiles*; and should America again dare trespass upon our sacred soil, then those Western nations who graciously open their skies and fuel her war-machines shall likewise feel the sting of our retribution.

Let us not forget that America is a land of vast and endless expanse, and to guard her secrets from our reach is as futile as seeking a needle cast into a boundless haystack. Iran may at her ease conduct a thousand covert undertakings within the very bowels of the United States—machinations of which its citizens would never so much as dream—a card which, to this day, we have drawn but sparingly from our sleeve. Our aim, be it understood, falls not upon its citizenry, but upon the sinews of its energy and infrastructure.

The petty mini-states of the Persian Gulf shall scarce dare to draw breath before Iran, and shall bend their necks in servile obedience. And America—she behind whose coat-tails those little Arab princelings once cowered, placing their hopes in Old Papa Uncle's brute strength—shall no longer have the audacity to play the street-thug nor the swaggering bully; nay, their palsy and frailty are already laid utterly bare, and they shall never possess the mettle to stand firm before us.

The ejection of America from the region is the very cornerstone upon which a new order must be raised—an order in which Iran shall reign, undisputed master of its own domain.
 
925boy said:
There, fixed it for you.

Pakistan has done the same in Kashmir too...the weak have to fight whichever way they have that will effectively push their cause and protect their interests. The world being harsh is normal. US and Israel invented doing illegal things to other nations and the world population saying that is ok, except when it's other countries that do the same.
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So you have not denied my assertion that the behaviour of Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis has recklessly brought net harm to Tehran?

As for Kashmir, a strange analogy to pluck out of thin air. Can discuss at length on another thread. To summarise, I will remind you and the assembled readership that Azad Kashmir, which we LIBERATED from the clutches of the rampant Hindu expansionists nearly 80 years ago (by deploying irregular + regular forces much more intelligently than the Tehran regime has presently) is a CRITICAL strategic piece of land for Pakistani food, water, trade (border with China), and security. So actually, our Kashmiri project was successful, albeit incomplete at present. In fact, without this, our country would have been finished decades ago.
 
PakistanLVR said:
This is 100% categorically false. If it acted in its interests, the literacy rate would be >=90%.
It wouldn't let the Indians and Israeli steal its products via Dubai and stamp their countries logo on it.
It would not have let the US bombed Pakistani citizens.
It would have wrecked the indians in 2019 and 2025 after they attacked Pakistan proper twice, and shut off the water.
It would have tested a 12k miles range missile capable of nuke warheads, and not limit its current missile range to just 2,750 miles.
I mean the list goes on and on, and you guys come here and d**k measure when everyone is aware of the actual facts. The Country has never had a government which has acted in its people's interests.
It truly is a renter state, which means you in England can't even depend on its for any form of protection and support in case things get heated due to all the racial stuff. The consensus is everyone is uniting against the Pakistanis there. The other Muslims hate your community just as much as any right wing Anglo - so drop this foolish act of defending the animals ruling Pakistan
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Plenty of truth in what you have posted. That does not, however, render my statement false. In fact, you seem to be describing a whole bunch of different problems. Try to calmly respond to my assertions instead of this randomised shithousery.
 
Bibi going to attack Iran soon, soften up air defenses and kill Iranian officials.

Trump will stay out of it until after mid terms. Then in November, B-2’s will drop bunker busters on Isafhan and Pickaxe mountain and probably a couple of MOABs on above surface nuclear installations like natanz and others for fireworks.

Trump will then declare total victory and say the war is over.

This is just going to be a modified version of Operation Midnight Hammer (June 2025 war).
 
Immortals said:


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Or just trying to provoke Iran into believing one is coming or have Trump attack in full force from bases within Israel have to assume they don’t believe Jordan is the safest area for American aircraft or troops if there is another flare up Israel has had time to replenish its own interceptors for a couple of weeks more if intense fighting I would assume if Hezbollah Iran and let’s say Houthis are joining the next round as a reciprocal favor for Iran assisting in Yemen
 
r3alist said:
The Pak national perspective is not respected, leave it at that

Perpetually judging the whole world.
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It’s a two way street.

If you respect other nation’s interests, they won’t point out your hypocrisy.

Anyway, now that cards are on the table - we can point out the hypocrites.
 
Shags202 said:
Or just trying to provoke Iran into believing one is coming or have Trump attack in full force from bases within Israel have to assume they don’t believe Jordan is the safest area for American aircraft or troops if there is another flare up Israel has had time to replenish its own interceptors for a couple of weeks more if intense fighting I would assume if Hezbollah Iran and let’s say Houthis are joining the next round as a reciprocal favor for Iran assisting in Yemen
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Have you any idea that it takes a whole year to get 2-3 days worth of interceptor supply even if Iran fires 15-20 per day as it was doing towards the end of war?


Last 6 months they probably got an extra day worth of supply now in stock.
 
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