Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[muhammed45]

Diplomacy has been given it's chance. Iran cannot complain that it was not and Iran cannot complain that it was not effectively engaged, it has been.

To date, the Gulf countries have taken a passive role in actively defending their civilian and energy assets when Iran has attacked them by not militarily striking Iran back(there were some instance of UAE responding selectively though). While they have not restrained the USA from attacking Iran from bases on their country(and the are absolute c---s for not doing so), they themselves have not attacked Iran even with the provocations on their civilian infrastructure and restriction of their trade flows.

At some point, that could change and Iran will need to be mindful of that with the decisions it makes and the actions it will take.

However, if this war does restart again and Iran starts to systematically destroy civilian and energy infrastructure in the Gulf, then the Gulf countries may well not take such a passive role again and they may start to actively respond with attacks on Iranian Infrastructure in reply to their infrastructure being destroyed.

The combined air forces of fighter jets for the Saudi, Bahrain, Kuwait, UAE alone is in the region of 700 modern jets. They can do a lot of damage on their own on Iran, if the need arises and combined with the USA air force and others, it can be a significant force.

Judging by the noises coming out of the meeting in Tehran, there has been no agreement to date, so it seems that Iran has made one set of decisions for itself with what has presented in those meetings. There are others than Iran will need to make, and actually own as well.

While this war was forced on Iran, it will still have to own its part of what happens from now on.

These are all big boy decisions, and significant history is being made before us.

There is a sincere concern for the public good in your remarks, and I have no doubt about that. However, one subtle point may have been overlooked: NATO provided the United States with around 5,000 aircraft, several times the combined air power of the Arab countries.

At present, Iran is fully focused on retaliatory strikes. Through this strategy, it has managed to put the United States under pressure in the Strait of Hormuz and unsettle its economy. European and American countries are facing turmoil, and the depth of corruption within them has become increasingly apparent.

Neither religiously nor in the eyes of the public should Arab nations be regarded as Iran’s adversaries by default. The fundamental problem lies with Arab rulers who are dependent on the West and have created room for Israel to operate freely. Saudi Arabia must end its blockade of Yemen and the killing of its defenceless people; otherwise, there can be no promising outlook for regional cooperation.

 

[925boy]

This is the war where it is illegal content to know Iran truly won. Illegal content in the UAE getting hammered. Illegal content to know Israel got hammered. Illegal to know the classified deaths and full equipment losses to the Americans.

It is criminal and illegal to pass around that information that the US lost the war thus far.

The way the public only can tell the war is lost for the US is the increase in prices.

This post is too real and deep for many on PDF to not see it as a conspiracy or abstract theory. deep thinker identified here.

 

[Blain2]

Pakistan didn’t join the NAM block until 1979. But even after formally joining it was supporting the Taliban against the Soviets.

Until then it was tied to the Zio-US block.

But by then its military was in the pay of CIA.

I think this is an overly simplistic, pedestrian analysis of the situation.

Pakistani military has never been on anyone's pay or payroll. Pakistani establishment does what makes sense for Pakistan first and foremost which is why the phrase "Running with the hare and hunting with the hounds" was attributed to some of Pakistani security policies.

We backed the Mujahideen against the Soviets because of the occupation next door. Pakistan started supporting the Mujahideen and provided refuge long before the Americans and Saudis started providing assistance. There was no "Zionist" connected to the Afghan jihad.

NAM never made any sense for Pakistan because we were in a direct confrontation with India, which happened to be one of the founding members of NAM. Why join a grouping that is unable to support one's point of view?

 

[pakistanitarzan]

Seems fake
Why couldn't Iranian intelligence were not able to detect devices?

Iranian intelligence haven't quite been successful in preventing assassinations on their leaders so there is a question mark.

 

[Flotilla]

However, if this war does restart again and Iran starts to systematically destroy civilian and energy infrastructure in the Gulf, then the Gulf countries may well not take such a passive role again and they may start to actively respond with attacks on Iranian Infrastructure in reply to their infrastructure being destroyed.

We are all adults enough to take responsibility for our own actions.

You know full well that Iran strikes back when attacked, and that it will destroy civilian infrastructure whenever its own civilian infrastructure is destroyed.

If Iran is to suffer from hunger and cold, then let us all suffer the same fate. Zelenskyy does it, and only Trump questions it.

You’ve already seen what happened with the fifty or so aircraft that took off from U.S. bases in the Middle East. Let’s see if an F-15SA on the ground can accomplish something that an American F-15E in that same region cannot...

Sometimes I find it hard to understand you, Ali Baba.

 

[Flotilla]

The US has sufficient assets throughout the world to support strikes all the way from CONUS. Having bases in the ME just makes it more convenient.

And who Will pay the fuel???

 

[lightning f57]

US forces ready to launch new strikes on Iran within 96 hours of Trump’s order — CNN​

US forces ready to launch new strikes on Iran within 96 hours of Trump’s order — CNN

The officials believe this could happen before the end of the year

tass.com

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/10/26/politics/us-iran-strike-plans-trump

So what do they need 4 days for, clearing the airfields and pushing out the battle groups out of missile ranges, put troops in hotels and diplomatic staff and families on a plane to Europe?

 

[RocketLaw]

...(continue)...
Iran offered to mediate between Saudi Arabia and the Houthis. It was represented by President Pezeshkian, SNSC chief Mohsen Rezaei and senior IRGC officials. Turkish intelligence chief Ibrahim Kalin and Pakistan's army chief Asim Munir were also taking part.

This is one of the biggest concessions from the Saudis yet.

 

[BananaRepublic]

The US has sufficient assets throughout the world to support strikes all the way from CONUS. Having bases in the ME just makes it more convenient.

I don’t know whether you as a yank know this or not.

Saudis have been actively trying to ferment violence against Shias through their Wahabi networks.

They have encouraged violence against shrines and preachers from those communities. They have labelled Shiahs as heretics.

Most Sunnis are anti Wahabi due to the barbaric nature of Wahabism.

The Saudis want to turn their geopolitical battle against Iran into a Sunni versus Shia sectarian war.

Sunni masses aren’t buying it. Overwhelming majority of Sunnis are backing Iran.

Sunni versus Shia does not go as deep as Catholic versus Protestant. Where the two groups perpetrated horrific violence against each other.

The violence against Shias is orchestrated from Saudi.

Which is another reason to pray for the downfall of the House of Saud.

Without US backing of Saudis - Sunnism wouldn’t have taken a radical turn in the 1970s.

Which is why Zio-US-Wahabism is the actual axis of evil.

 

[lightning f57]

Maybe some tough love by trading blows with one another will wake up the ME countries and make them realise the US is out on the exit, if anything they will consolidate in Israel until a real man takes office in the white house and ends the uncondition support of the zionist entity. We are heading in that direction, the ME countries need to realise that and for the better of their own people work feverishly to close out disputes and push for peace.

 

[fitpOsitive]

I can't blame Iran to use whatever weapon they have in their arsenal to protect their people. Trade war is a form of weapon.

Remember, Iran did not start this war. Iran is the victim of this war, not aggressor.

I haven't forgotten hundreds of Sunni Ulama killed in Pakistan by Iran backed terrorists. Irans game was dirty and they weren't clear about their intentions, ever.
Having said that, since USA is out of middle east and Iran and rest of Gulf has a great chance to divide the world for supplying oil rather than try to undermine each other's petroleum exports. May be Iran keep supplying China. Rest of the Gulf can supply Rest of the world.

 

[BHAN85]

locations updated today, uss roosevelt is in almost same position than one week ago, it seems they have no hurry to reach iran waters.

 

[BHAN85]

Seems fake
Why couldn't Iranian intelligence were not able to detect devices?

it's not so easy, in 2015 iran talks, american delegation of john kerry in lausanne, deployed a tent in the hotel garden, the only safe way they could did to communicate with usa mainland.

even americans with all their technology can not be sure about a bugged hotel suite.

 

[KingQamaR]

lol

Zio-US wouldn’t be able to attack Iran if the Saudis didn’t hosts and facilitate the attacks.

In reality the Arabs are bigger culprits than Zio US.

Saudi said before the first attacks it won't allow its air space to be used against Iran and there is no proof of it being used. US Jets attacks came from the Aircraft carriers. and Israel.

 

[Lulldapull]

Try as you might to muddy the water - Iran only has issues with those who directly facilitate the attacks on Iran.

His entire premise for existence is that since wes colluddzz/ colonized, wes should all sit down in kumbaya dance ceremony and do a third world festival like at some indigenous/ aborigial fair...........

Just accept our fate as sepoys of the Royal Indian army.