Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Hassan Al-Somal]

BREAKING:

Iraqi prime minister Ali al-Zaidi has told members of Iraq's ruling coalition that he has seen leaked war planes presented to President Trump, including a scenario in which American forces would enter southern Iran through Iraqi territory to launch a ground invasion – Al-Mada reports.

Al-Zaidi also outlined another possible scenario in which Iranian forces would invade Kuwait through Iraqi territory.

Al-Zaidi also warned Iraqi Shia militias not to get involved in the war on Iran's side. He told them if their groups take part in the fighting, the Iraqi government could move to arrest large number of their leaders.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

And ultimately a big beneficiary of that will be Iran (assuming Iran hasn’t completely fallen to pro Western indoctrinated individuals like Deng).

For now Xi has kept Iran as a thorn in the West side, but his lucrative trade with the West/Europe and close relations with Arab countries like Saudi Arabia meant he was never going to seriously engage with Iran militarily (major weapon deals or ToT) or even economically and run the risk of making everyone else mad.

Even during the current war, Xi slashed oil imports by up to 5MBPD and kept the western world alive. I doubt a staunch Maoist would pass up an opportunity to weaken the west like Xi did.

In the end we will see how it all plays out. But I don’t think Xi will remain premier for too long and the next election might be his last.

Already there is a notable air in the party as individuals decide what they want the long term trajectory of China to look like. Xi will be in his late 70’s when his next term is completed. I think their will be pressure by then for him to step aside and let a Maoist take control.

Who would you say has the best chances to succeed Xi?

China's hardcore pro-west factions (equivalent to the Pahlavi faction) become almost non-existent in China.

The Dengist establishment (equivalent to the Iranian reformists) has suffered a deadly blow since 2022 when Xi pulled out the political stunt like this.



Xi is not 100% hardliner to the US, but at least he does realize the pro-US Dengist establishment is compromising China's national security, hence a major internal crackdown against the Dengists.

The rising Maoists (equivalent to the Iranian hardliners within the IRGC) is becoming the mainstream consensus of the young population and a sizeable portion of the older generation.

Right now, Xi's future successor might not be evident, but it could be someone 20-30 years younger than him.

The Maoists just behave like the IRGC, hardliner outside but ruthless pragmatist inside, when they were weak, they would only fight for survival and sometime being compromised for a cease fire, but when they become strong enough, they will deliver a deadly blow to its rival.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

US imposed a naval blockade on Iran --> we failed to respond or break the blockade

US imposes a land blockade on Iran --> we fail to respond

US bombs Iranian territory on a daily basis --> we fail to respond

if IRI does not want to fight, it's better to just surrender and end this bullshit show.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Called it.

And, both are going to sell their souls to become the respective leaders in both chambers.

Count on it.

 

[SaadH]

DSA/Progressive may be able to push Cuck Schumer out of the way, but the DEI AIPAC Shaukur Jeffries ain't going no where.

 

[muhammed45]

It is a mistake to think that only one person makes all the decisions in China. China is a complex country with many think tanks and experts who analyze everything e.g. body language of other countries' representatives. Their big decisions are not emotional or rushed; they are planned carefully behind closed doors by many different people. They don't make decisions all of a sudden.

Unlike what some Western media says, China does not work like a simple dictatorship. Instead, decisions are made through a group of representatives. For example, some people think China’s relationship with the West or its support for people like Elon Musk is a mistake. But from the view of Chinese leaders, these are smart moves to protect their national interests in the short and medium term. If it were up to me, i would tell the Chinese leaders: Hey don't allow Musk to use you and your labor forces. But from their point of view, it might be a way for importing new technologies at expense of their workforce.

The conflict between Trump and Elon Musk might look like a childish squabble, but allowing Musk to do business in China was likely a strategic choice by Chinese experts. Even when China gives concessions in trade wars, it is still part of their big plan. As an Iranian citizen, I respect the decisions of Chinese leaders, even though I sometimes disagree with them.

 

[925boy]

According to Ali Gholhaki, an Iranian journalist close to the country's establishment, Qatar's latest proposal to end the US war on Iran would accept Iranian enrichment at 3.67%. Gholhaki says Pakistani Field Marshal Asim Munir, the country's Chief of Defense Forces, had promised that point.

Gholhaki wrote Sunday that the plan would also have:
️ Iran dilute its 400 kg of 60% enriched uranium inside the country
️ The US lift its naval blockade and free $6 to $10 billion in Iranian assets
️ Iran mediate between Saudi Arabia and Yemen's Ansarallah
️ Iran admit IAEA inspectors and then reopen the Strait of Hormuz

He called the plan a "clear US retreat" after 18 months of Washington demanding zero enrichment and the transfer of Iran's 60% uranium to the US.

He set that against a "relative" retreat by Tehran, which he said still insists on its seven conditions.

Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani, who is mediating between Iran and the U.S., is set to meet Trump at the White House Monday, per AP.

On Sunday, Secretary of State Marco Rubio said, "I wouldn't say we're at the verge of a breakthrough." He called some of Iran's demands "outrageous and ridiculous."

Honestly and transparently, US is NOTORIOUS for stalling and manipulating negotiations ,be it Israeli - Palestinian negotiations or Russia - Ukraine negotiations,so If we were being fair, US has no right to complain about Iran being excessive or uncompromising in its negotiations with US,especially if US Isnt the stronger negotiating (leveraging)side.

 

[BHAN85]

everytime USA and Iran do negotiations, GCC has more reasons to worry than Iran itself.

Backstabbing and treason are the most profitable behavior when a empire is in final decline.

USA as mainland country has future.
But as world empire is over, and vassals will be main damaged.

 

[vizier]

It is a mistake to think that only one person makes all the decisions in China. China is a complex country with many think tanks and experts who analyze everything e.g. body language of other countries' representatives. Their big decisions are not emotional or rushed; they are planned carefully behind closed doors by many different people. They don't make decisions all of a sudden.

Unlike what some Western media says, China does not work like a simple dictatorship. Instead, decisions are made through a group of representatives. For example, some people think China’s relationship with the West or its support for people like Elon Musk is a mistake. But from the view of Chinese leaders, these are smart moves to protect their national interests in the short and medium term. If it were up to me, i would tell the Chinese leaders: Hey don't allow Musk to use you and your labor forces. But from their point of view, it might be a way for importing new technologies at expense of their workforce.

The conflict between Trump and Elon Musk might look like a childish squabble, but allowing Musk to do business in China was likely a strategic choice by Chinese experts. Even when China gives concessions in trade wars, it is still part of their big plan. As an Iranian citizen, I respect the decisions of Chinese leaders, even though I sometimes disagree with them.

An authoriterian charismatic leader makes faster decisions than a collective decision making that involves beurocratic processes but collective decision making is much secure. The leader can make mistakes and in worst case scenario can be taken control of by blackmail or by self interest. Then those fast mistaken decisions would result in very fast collapse of the whole system like for example if a country enters an unwinnable war in an unfavorable condition or similar. Security is much more important than faster decision making. You can also approach a collective decision making system with reason rather than an individual that has whole power who can change decisions very quickly. In that sense China seems more trustable and reasonable. But ofcourse if Ccp stays that way and one leader does not change-reform the system giving most control-power to himself.

 

[UKBengali]

Trump wont be in office in 2-3 years.

Harris would also have been ordered to attack Iran.

 

[Imran S]

Gargash: The region may face a long period of uncertainty

Abu DHABI, UAE - Dr. Anwar bin Mohammed Gargash, diplomatic advisor to the President of the UAE, confirmed on Monday that the region may face a state of

www.voiceofemirates.com

The region may face a long period of uncertainty​

Gargash: Reaching a comprehensive political settlement between the United States and Iran is not a given​

Abu DHABI, UAE – Dr. Anwar bin Mohammed Gargash, diplomatic advisor to the President of the UAE, confirmed on Monday that the region may face a state of uncertainty for a long time.

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Persian Gulf]

BREAKING:

Iraqi prime minister Ali al-Zaidi has told members of Iraq's ruling coalition that he has seen leaked war planes presented to President Trump, including a scenario in which American forces would enter southern Iran through Iraqi territory to launch a ground invasion – Al-Mada reports.

Al-Zaidi also outlined another possible scenario in which Iranian forces would invade Kuwait through Iraqi territory.

Al-Zaidi also warned Iraqi Shia militias not to get involved in the war on Iran's side. He told them if their groups take part in the fighting, the Iraqi government could move to arrest large number of their leaders.

This has to be fake.

 

[RocketLaw]

BREAKING: Trump says Israel will have to pay the US back "any and all costs" of the Iran war.

"Pay us back any and all costs that we've had for the war," Trump tells CBS's 60 Minutes.

"We're gonna get all that money back," he adds.

Trump says "Without us, they wouldn't exist. Without us, Israel wouldn't exist."


Probably fake drama, Trump has been very closed connection with Natenyahoo and Isro.

 

[Immortals]

As I said, Iranian capitulation is more likely than US ever returning to the MoU. Iran got duped.