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No, Raeesi was the president.

The parliament passed the bill in 2019 when Rohani was still the president. Raeesi had 3 years to implement it and he didn't do jackshit.

Yeah, and True Promise 1 is the reason that Israel realized Iran couldn't hit even a single target in Israel with precision and kill even a single IDF soldier on duty. That's when Israel realized it could attack Iran with impunity.
Do you suffer from alzheimer or something else?????

Pezeshkian was president.

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I don't know what bill you're mentioning to

But if you mean the law for 60% enrichment of uranium, Rouhani besides zarif said : it was the worst decision ever made by IRI

Here is the source of his speech:


And Rafsanjani and Khatami always were against nuclear and missile programs

And they always said nuclear and missiles programs are waste of time and energy, and we should negotiate with the West and freez the enchriment of uranium and all of nuclear program because we have oil

We must talk about missile program with the West, etc....

جمله ی معروف هاشمی رفسنجانی که برنامه موشکی مثل یه خاری توی چشماش بود :

دوران دوران مذاکره است نه موشک.....

The source:

 
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Do you suffer from alzheimer or something else?????

Pezeshkian was president.
I'm talking about the law that the parliament passed in 2019 to compensate for Trump leaving the JCPOA.

Raeesi had 3 years to implement it and he did nothing. And True Promise 1 was utter humiliation. Even worse than Ain al-Assad and True Promise 2.
 
I'm talking about the law that the parliament passed in 2019 to compensate for Trump leaving the JCPOA.

Raeesi had 3 years to implement it and he did nothing. And True Promise 1 was utter humiliation. Even worse than Ain al-Assad and True Promise 2.


Even your basic information is much inaccurate..
 
I still don’t know why Iranians are at least not hitting back at Arab targets if they worry about irritating Americans …. Plenty of targets in Kuwait and Behrain for the starters …. You hit our military sites we will hit yours …

Also please stop thinking Pakistanis are on your side . Our generals will sell their entire nation for few visas and tickets to the Disney land . Munir is not an elected official he is usurper who was least qualified to be the top general but put in their by his masters in America .

I know Iranians are smarter than to trust this snake .
 
Still way more accurate than you, who doesn't know what bill I am talking about:


Funny you don't know the most important bill after the JCPOA.
I think you're confusing two separate developments.


In 2019, Iran began gradually reducing its JCPOA commitments in response to the US withdrawal from the nuclear deal and the failure of the remaining parties to deliver sanctions relief. These steps were based on Articles 26 and 36 of the JCPOA, not on a parliamentary law passed in 2019.

The full name of the parliamentary law you're referring to is the “Strategic Action Plan to Lift Sanctions and Protect the Rights of the Iranian Nation,” which was passed by the Iranian Parliament in December 2020.

This is the very same law that provided the legal framework for expanding uranium enrichment beyond 20%.

Although the law does not explicitly mention 60% enrichment, Article 1 requires the production of uranium enriched to at least 20% and addresses the provision of uranium enriched above 20%.

Iran began enriching uranium to 60% in April 2021, following the implementation of this legislation.

So let's get the facts straight: the 2019 measures and the 2020 parliamentary law are two different developments. However, the 60% enrichment issue is associated with the 2020 parliamentary law, not some separate 2019 law.

The key point is that the 60% enrichment program is linked to the implementation of the December 2020 parliamentary law, not to a separate parliamentary law passed in 2019. The 2019 measures were part of Iran's gradual reduction of its JCPOA commitments, whereas the 2020 legislation established a new legal framework for expanding nuclear activities.

You should work on your basic knowledges...


I cannot wait for 18 hours so I answer your respond here:

First of all, let's separate Iran's obligations under the JCPOA from its broader nuclear ambitions.


1. Regarding the IR-40 reactor:

The JCPOA did require Iran to redesign and rebuild the Arak heavy-water reactor. However, it specifically required a MODERNIZED reactor based on an internationally agreed design, not the reconstruction of the original IR-40 design.

In fact, the original reactor's calandria was removed and rendered inoperable in January 2016, as verified by the IAEA.

Furthermore, the Arak modernization project was not simply abandoned or never initiated. A Chinese-Iranian consultancy contract was signed in April 2017, and the conceptual redesign was subsequently completed, according to the US Congressional Research Service.

So saying that the original IR-40 reactor was never reconstructed is technically true, but presenting that as evidence that the modernization project was never initiated is misleading.

2. Regarding the 190,000 SWU claim:

This is where you're confusing Iran's long-term nuclear ambitions with its actual obligations under the JCPOA.

The figure of 190,000 SWU was a long-term enrichment capacity target publicly advocated by Iranian officials before the nuclear agreement. It was NOT a commitment under the JCPOA that Iran was supposed to implement after Trump's withdrawal.

In fact, the JCPOA explicitly restricted Iran to 5,060 IR-1 centrifuges at Natanz for 10 years and capped uranium enrichment at 3.67% for 15 years.

Iran's gradual reduction of its JCPOA commitments began in May 2019, invoking Articles 26 and 36 of the agreement. It was not required to achieve 190,000 SWU as compensation for Trump's withdrawal.

You can criticize Iran for failing to complete the Arak modernization project or debate its nuclear policy, but please don't misrepresent what the JCPOA actually stipulated.

There is a fundamental difference between what Iran wanted to achieve, what it agreed to under the JCPOA, and what it subsequently did after the US withdrawal. Understanding that distinction is basic to understanding the nuclear agreement.


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I think you're confusing two separate developments.


In 2019, Iran began gradually reducing its JCPOA commitments in response to the US withdrawal from the nuclear deal and the failure of the remaining parties to deliver sanctions relief. These steps were based on Articles 26 and 36 of the JCPOA, not on a parliamentary law passed in 2019.

The full name of the parliamentary law you're referring to is the “Strategic Action Plan to Lift Sanctions and Protect the Rights of the Iranian Nation,” which was passed by the Iranian Parliament in December 2020.

This is the very same law that provided the legal framework for expanding uranium enrichment beyond 20%.

Although the law does not explicitly mention 60% enrichment, Article 1 requires the production of uranium enriched to at least 20% and addresses the provision of uranium enriched above 20%.

Iran began enriching uranium to 60% in April 2021, following the implementation of this legislation.

So let's get the facts straight: the 2019 measures and the 2020 parliamentary law are two different developments. However, the 60% enrichment issue is associated with the 2020 parliamentary law, not some separate 2019 law.

The key point is that the 60% enrichment program is linked to the implementation of the December 2020 parliamentary law, not to a separate parliamentary law passed in 2019. The 2019 measures were part of Iran's gradual reduction of its JCPOA commitments, whereas the 2020 legislation established a new legal framework for expanding nuclear activities.

You should work on your basic knowledges...
You do not understand what you're talking about, which is not really surprising from the person that talked about F-5s equipped with AI, secret plasma weapons that would destroy the US and Israel in the blink of an eye and missiles with nuclear engines, etc.

1. Iran was supposed to reconstruct IR-40 reactor after Trump pulled out of the JCPOA. Not happened. Was not even initiated, even during the presidency of Raeesi. IR-40 has been completely abandoned since the JCPOA.

2. Iran was supposed to increase its number of centrifuges to 190,000 SWU UF6/year after Trump pulled out of the JCPOA. Not happened. Iran never exceeded 19,000 SWU UF6/year.

3. Iran was supposed to mass produce IR-8 and IR-9. Did not happen. Although, some early versions of IR-8 were tested and produced but never produced in large scale and used in our enrichment facilities.
 


Clearly if there was any durable deal on the horizon Rubio and Bessent would be silent and talking far more respectfully about Iran.

They wouldn’t be saying “F the Iranian leadership” or “Iranians are lunatics” etc etc.

Iran is going to be under a blockade the rest of Trump’s term. In 6-12 months Iranians will be in the streets venting frustration that the government isn’t doing anything to reverse the status quo.

Iran keeps thinking waiting and strategic patience is a strategy. It hasn’t worked for over 6 YEARS! Yet they still revert back to that terrible strategy. Even with Khamenai Sr gone this country is unwilling to reverse their disastrous foreign policy and fear of escalation.
 





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Iran targets US military site in Gulf for first time in two months as hopes for a deal fade​

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A satellite view of the Persian Gulf, a vital oil and natural gas maritime corridor between Iran and the Arabian Peninsula. The route passes through the strategic Strait of Hormuz, a key chokepoint in the global energy supply chain.

A satellite view of the Persian Gulf, a vital oil and natural gas maritime corridor between Iran and the Arabian Peninsula. The route passes through the strategic Strait of Hormuz, a key chokepoint in the global energy supply chain.
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Iran said it targeted a US military installation in Bahrain early Friday in retaliation for what it described as an American attack on Iranian territory, marking its first attempt to strike a military facility in a Gulf state in more than two months.

US Central Command (CENTCOM) said later Friday that American forces shot down two Iranian drones launched toward Bahrain, reporting no injuries or damage.

“A few hours ago, the IRGC’s aerospace forces, in response to the enemy’s aerial aggression against a communication tower in Sirik, targeted and destroyed the early warning radar of the aggressor US military in Bahrain,” Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps said, according to the semi-official Tasnim news agency, adding that “this is a serious warning” to Washington.

CENTCOM said the claim that Iran attacked a radar system was false.

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US Vice President JD Vance listens to US President Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner as they attend a quadrilateral meeting between the United States, Iran, Pakistan and Qatar at the Burgenstock luxury hotel complex overlooking Lake Lucerne, Switzerland, on June 21, 2026, as part of high-level talks aimed at advancing a deal to end the Middle East conflict. A new round of negotiations over the Middle East war was set to kick off on June 21, 2026 with Iranian negotiators arriving in the Swiss host city hours ahead of US Vice President JD Vance, even as Tehran said it was closing the Strait of Hormuz again over Israeli attacks in Lebanon. (Photo by Nathan Howard / POOL / AFP via Getty Images)
US Vice President JD Vance listens to US President Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner as they attend a quadrilateral meeting between the United States, Iran, Pakistan and Qatar at the Burgenstock luxury hotel complex overlooking Lake Lucerne, Switzerland, on June 21, 2026, as part of high-level talks aimed at advancing a deal to end the Middle East conflict. A new round of negotiations over the Middle East war was set to kick off on June 21, 2026 with Iranian negotiators arriving in the Swiss host city hours ahead of US Vice President JD Vance, even as Tehran said it was closing the Strait of Hormuz again over Israeli attacks in Lebanon. (Photo by Nathan Howard / POOL / AFP via Getty Images)
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Trump tells Vance to turn his focus away from Iran: ‘We don’t need a deal’

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While the US has continued striking Iranian targets around the Strait of Hormuz in recent weeks, Tehran has largely refrained from attacking American military installations in Gulf states since early September, focusing instead on disrupting shipping through the waterway.

‘We don’t need a deal’​

The Iranian attack came a day after US President Donald Trump said the US no longer needs a deal with Tehran and ordered his vice president to turn his focus elsewhere.


“We don’t need a deal with Iran. Those days have long since passed!” Trump posted on Truth Social. “We’ve got their money, Hundreds of Billions of Dollars, and we’ve got their Strait!”

Trump also directed Vice President JD Vance, who had been tasked with leading negotiations between the US and Iran, “to focus his complete and total attention” on rooting out corruption and crime in Democratic states and cities.

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Iran has warned that it will not accept a stalemate as it comes under intense economic pressure from punishing US sanctions and a naval blockade.

Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian said on Monday that Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei had instructed his government “to end the state of neither war nor peace,” telling him to “finish” the war with the US.


He said the Islamic Republic “can negotiate with dignity, and can finish it (the war) with dignity.”

The exchange comes as attacks on shipping in the strategic Strait of Hormuz reach a record high. October recorded 37 vessel attacks, Lloyd’s List reported Friday, the highest monthly total of the conflict. At least 14 more were confirmed in November, the maritime intelligence group said.

Despite the attacks, oil has continued to flow through the waterway, with Middle East exports recovering faster than global oil demand.

The International Energy Agency said Friday that the oil market is “showing tentative signs of rebalancing,” and that global oil supplies are surpassing demand for the first time since the outbreak of the Iran war.

Iran has warned that any new escalation in the war would prompt it to dramatically expand its attacks, potentially targeting US interests as far away as Europe.



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Iran is going to be under a blockade the rest of Trump’s term. In 6-12 months Iranians will be in the streets venting frustration that the government isn’t doing anything to reverse the status quo.
Or possibly for the rest of the life of the Islamic Republic.
I wouldn't count on the next US president to change something that is working.
They didn't return to the JCPOA after Trump left the office. Why would they do something positive for Iran this time? Iran has been shown to be toothless and harmless.
 
Or possibly for the rest of the life of the Islamic Republic.
I wouldn't count on the next US president to change something that is working.
They didn't return to the JCPOA after Trump left the office. Why would they do something positive for Iran this time? Iran has been shown to be toothless and harmless.

To get a deal you have to plunge the world into chaos and suffer casualties yourself. Sacrifice is required to get what you want. That’s how it’s always worked for thousands of years in geopolitics.

Iran wants to gently push the west to accepting Iranian power. That has never happened in the history of conflict. America took power from England via multiple wars. Not by gently convincing the king to let America be independent. China took control of its country from western meddling by fighting in Korea and losing many troops. Not by Mao sending fake threats to Nixon.

I am supposed to believe Iran is the center of Chess and strategic thinking yet haven’t grasped this basic concept that power on the international stage is not given it is taken.

Maybe Iran wants to be under blockade. Becuase the oligarchs that run the economy make even more money by being the only source of goods into the country. The fact is Iran’s system is terribly corrupt and run by a group of businessmen who own the politicians and likely have control over Mojtaba himself.

Either way, the world has a short term memory. The war is back pages material now. No one even talks about it. In a few more months it will be a distant memory like the Ukraine war is for Americans. Iran will still be firing off fake threats come Persian New Year.

If that idiot Solemani didn’t have a death wish and took care of his security like Qaani did. We wouldn’t be having to listen to Rezaei and the idiot Qalibaf destroy this country. Solemani cursed this country for his own martyrdom and vanity.
 
Iran should test ballistic missiles launch on Poland because they have the crappiest air defences of Europe

This is pre-emptive before striking broader targets in Europe
 
To get a deal you have to plunge the world into chaos and suffer casualties yourself. Sacrifice is required to get what you want. That’s how it’s always worked for thousands of years in geopolitics.
Yes, you need to play the madman. The IR will never do that because the oligarchs inside Iran have too much wealth in the Emirates, Europe and North America.

And Iran cannot play the madman without nuclear deterrence.

Iran wants to gently push the west to accepting Iranian power. That has never happened in the history of conflict. America took power from England via multiple wars. Not by gently convincing the king to let America be independent. China took control of its country from western meddling by fighting in Korea and losing many troops. Not by Mao sending fake threats to Nixon.
Indeed. The problem is that Iran had a window of opportunity to do that in the early years of the 21st century while the US was in a quagmire in Iraq and Afghanistan and Iran decided to waste all those years and eventually surrendered to the US and Europe by signing the JCPOA.

Maybe Iran wants to be under blockade. Becuase the oligarchs that run the economy make even more money by being the only source of goods into the country. The fact is Iran’s system is terribly corrupt and run by a group of businessmen who own the politicians and likely have control over Mojtaba himself.
That's what I think too. The oligarchs would profit from the blockade for sure. They will earn hundreds of billions of dollars, turning Iran into a failed state.

If that idiot Solemani didn’t have a death wish and took care of his security like Qaani did. We wouldn’t be having to listen to Rezaei and the idiot Qalibaf destroy this country. Solemani cursed this country for his own martyrdom and vanity.
Soleimani wasn't the person who said no to nuclear weapons and ICBMs. He expanded Iran's regional influence as much as he could. He was a victim of Khamenei's idiotic policies, not the source of the problem.

Meanwhile, on a side note, Turkey signed a defense pact with Qatar today. The entire region is uniting against Iran one by one.
 
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I still don’t know why Iranians are at least not hitting back at Arab targets if they worry about irritating Americans …. Plenty of targets in Kuwait and Behrain for the starters …. You hit our military sites we will hit yours …

Also please stop thinking Pakistanis are on your side . Our generals will sell their entire nation for few visas and tickets to the Disney land . Munir is not an elected official he is usurper who was least qualified to be the top general but put in their by his masters in America .

I know Iranians are smarter than to trust this snake .


Some of you Pakistanis are unashamedly stupid. Do you see any US bases in Pakistan attacking Iran. Or Pakistanis giving US Military logistical assistance attacking Iran ?
 
Some of you Pakistanis are unashamedly stupid. Do you see any US bases in Pakistan attacking Iran. Or Pakistanis giving US Military logistical assistance attacking Iran ?
Were you born yesterday ? Or just can think like a toddler ….

Pakistani generals and politicians in power literally bow down every morning to USA flag ….. just look at what a shit show Pakistan has turned into … not to mention closing borders with Iran for “border management “ ….. seriously you give these generals few million dollars and they will invade Iran .
 

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