Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Israel warns Iran against responding​

“In response to months of continuous attacks from the regime in Iran against the State of Israel right now the Israel Defence Forces is conducting precise strikes on military targets in Iran,” Israel’s military said in a statement announcing the attack.

The military said later it had completed its “targeted” attacks in Iran, striking truck missile manufacturing facilities and surface-to-air missile arrays, adding its planes had safely returned home.

“If the regime in Iran were to make the mistake of beginning a new round of escalation, we will be obligated to respond,” the military said.

Targets did not include energy infrastructure or Iran’s nuclear facilities, a US official said.

US President Joe Biden had warned that Washington, Israel’s main backer and supplier of arms, would not support a strike on Tehran’s nuclear sites and had said Israel should consider alternatives to attacking Iran’s oil fields.

Iranian authorities have repeatedly warned Israel against any attack.

Iran is “entitled and obligated to defend itself against external aggressive acts”, its foreign ministry said on Saturday after Israeli airstrikes on Iran’s military targets.

Calling the Israeli attack a violation of international law, the ministry said in a statement that Tehran “recognises its responsibilities towards regional peace and security”.

Earlier, citing sources, the semi-official Tasnim news agency said there was “no doubt that Israel will face a proportional reaction for any action it takes”.

US informed ahead of strikes​

Israel said PM Benjamin Netanyahu, Defence Minister Yoav Gallant and other security officials closely followed the operation at the military’s command and control centre in Tel Aviv.

Gallant spoke to US Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin shortly after Israel’s strikes began. Austin emphasised the enhanced force posture of the United States to defend US personnel, Israel and its partners across the region, the Pentagon said.

Israel notified the United States before striking, but Washington was not involved in the operation, a US official told Reuters.
 

Israel sent message to Iran before attack – reports
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Jiyar Gol
BBC Persian correspondent

Before today’s attack, Israeli media reported that Israel, through a third party, had sent a message to Iran urging it not to retaliate.

The 1 October attacks by Iran on Israel, and Israel's strikes today on Iran, suggest that neither country seeks a full-scale war, with both taking steps to minimise casualties. Iran's oil and nuclear facilities, for instance, were deliberately avoided in the strikes.

Israeli military spokesperson Daniel Hagari claimed the targets included missile production sites, surface-to-air missile locations, and air defence systems, adding that "Israel now has greater air manoeuvrability over Iran". The focus, it seems, is more on demonstrating military reach than on inflicting severe damage.

Iranian state media claims Israel is exaggerating the scale of today strikes on sensitive sites. In April, the Iranian government denied an attack targeting Iranian air defences near Isfahan, but last week, Gen. Jafari, former commander of the Revolutionary Guards, admitted it took place, though he minimised its impact.

In the coming days, many in Israel and Iran will be holding their breath to see if Iran retaliates – whether Iran will refrain from responding, as it did following the Isfahan incident, or choose a different course of action.
 
Awwad said:
OMG!! There is a HUGE / MASSIVE difference. You don't see a quick burst of AA shells in this video. See the speed of burst of AA fire is so quick for fraction of second as its fuse is set to explode. Secondly, Hamas rockets are too tiny travelled only few Kms, but still you see a clear interception. If there is interception of a BM you definitely see a large burst of interception and not a quick tiny burst of AA shell.
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There is not a single difference. Look at the first few seconds of the video where there is a rapid burst of AA fire, IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.

Another one is the Hamas rocket. Drones also do not carry a large payload despite their size, just look at how the Shahed-136 was shot down by several Iron Dome in the April 2024 attack.

That is, in the video we do not see a clear interception and the images are so similar to the images that were released from yesterday's attack.

Another thing, I did not even mention the BM, because we would clearly see a clear distinction about the interception of one to a CM or even a drone, so I do not know what you mean here.

But see the point:
The Iron Dome is just as capable of intercepting a CM as a drone.

The intention to install it in Guam has to do with its ACM (anti-cruise missile) capability. Against this type of threat, the Iron Dome is superior because the Patriot's radar is directional (until the new 360° AESA radar for the Patriot comes into operation, which will fill this gap), and does not cover 360°, while the Iron Dome's is rotational, the same characteristic as the Zoubin, for example. And it is worth remembering that the Iron Dome was adopted in a limited way (two batteries) because it is not compatible with the Sentinel radar, adopted in large quantities by the Americans. In its place, the Americans will adopt the Enduring Shield system, based on the AIM-9X/2, which will fulfill the ACM function.
Awwad said:
I am amazed you guys in defense forums are unaware of AA-shells. That is not even a debate. Please read about it.
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hahahahaha

What is this? A dispute of ego? Dude, this is childish behavior.
 
Awwad said:
Nope. Iran will do nothing as I had told few days earlier. We discussed it few days ago. It happened exactly as I predicted:

1- Israel will attack
2- Israel will only do a limited strike
3- Israeli missiles will not be intercepted.
4- Iran will ignore the attack, downplaying it as "insignificant". (Which it is )
5- Situation deescalates.
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Good post.

Ali_Baba said:
We need to see the extent of damage in Iran from what Iran managed to achieve, but it does look like either Israel was either forced to do a smaller response by the Americans
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Likely Americans and/or the Israeli fear of another October 1 from Iran.
MLK said:
It's amusing because, imagine if I’d told you on October 1, after all the bold promises and threats from Israeli officials and pundits about their impending, massive response-one that would supposedly decapitate Iranian and IRGC leadership, targeting figures like Khamenei, and destroy nuclear and oil facilities, as well as ballistic missile production facilities - that a month later, all we would get is this. Calling it "more bark than bite" feels generous; it’s an outright letdown relative to what was promised.
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Great post! Indeed, all the chest thumping by Israel for the last 25 days and this?!!

It remains to be seen the extent of the damage in Iran but I think the Iranian officials have already called the damage 'limited'.


Israel’s retaliatory attack on Iran on Saturday morning marked the start of a new and more dangerous phase in the two countries’ yearslong conflict, but it appeared, at least for now, to have stopped short of prompting an all-out war, analysts said.
 

Arab countries condemn Israeli strikes on Iran
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We can bring you reaction now from the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Egypt to Israel's strikes on Iran overnight.

The United Arab Emirates (UAE) says it condemns Israel's strikes on Iran and stresses the importance of "exercising utmost self-restraint and judgment to mitigate risks and prevent the expansion of the scale of conflict".

Saudi Arabia also condemns the strikes, describing it as a violation of "international laws and norms", and urged "all parties to exercise the utmost restraint and reduce escalation".

Qatar expresses its "strong condemnation" of the Israeli strikes, also describing it as a "clear breach" of international law and urging "all concerned parties to exercise restraint".

Egypt says it is deeply concerned with escalation in the Middle East, including the Israeli strikes on Iran, and condemns all measures that threaten regional security and stability.
 
I posted a week or so back i expect Israel to go after Irans defenses, targetting anti air batteries and Radars to degrade Irans ability to defend her self. This is what I would have done as well to make my opponent think twice about retaliating knowing that they are more vulnerable now.

For this reason I think Iran should change approach, dont go tit for tat like with True Promise1&2 by hitting Israel proper, Iran should target IDF forces, infrastructure in the occupied territories as retaliation. They can target in Gaza, Golan or even occupied Sheba Farms, Lebanese territory.

The last two attacks were more symbolic to show off capabilities, if there is a response it needs to be strategic to boost morale of the resistance and to hurt the zionist soldiers invading arab lands. Israel then can also not have a clear excuse to attack Iran proper.
 
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seems (parts of a) Hawk battery in Tehran was hit (and not s-300)
 

Iran knows, if it strikes again Israel will hit back even harder
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Lyse Doucet
BBC Chief international correspondent

Civilian flights are taking off, as scheduled, says Iran’s aviation authority. Traffic is flowing normally says Iranian TV channels as they broadcast images from provinces now in the eyes of the world.

Israel’s attacks on “military centres” were "successfully intercepted” by the country’s air defences - is the official version of what happened in the early hours of the morning in three waves of Israeli attacks.

So far, they’ve only spoken of “limited damage” and the deaths of two Iranian soldiers.

After Israel’s first largely symbolic strike in April, Iran dismissed its significance and drew a line under it. This time, there may be an off ramp again.

Tehran will also need to assess how much damage was done to its air defences, knowing that if it strikes again, Israel will hit back - even harder.

The Islamic Republic, which doesn’t want to be drawn into an even more dangerous all-out war, will also weigh up the political cost - at home and in the region - of responding or not, before it decides on its next move.
 

Israeli strikes hit three locations in Iran - Iranian state media
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According to Iranian state media, Israel's strikes overnight hit military bases in Tehran as well as sites in the western province of Ilam and south-western Khuzestan.

Israel says its "precise and targeted strikes" on Iranian military sites overnight were "in different areas" but has not confirmed the locations.

Iran's air defence forces said in a statement that the attacks had been successfully countered with "limited damage" in some locations.
 
Nuffle said:
There is not a single difference. Look at the first few seconds of the video where there is a rapid burst of AA fire, IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.

Another one is the Hamas rocket. Drones also do not carry a large payload despite their size, just look at how the Shahed-136 was shot down by several Iron Dome in the April 2024 attack.

That is, in the video we do not see a clear interception and the images are so similar to the images that were released from yesterday's attack.

Another thing, I did not even mention the BM, because we would clearly see a clear distinction about the interception of one to a CM or even a drone, so I do not know what you mean here.

But see the point:
The Iron Dome is just as capable of intercepting a CM as a drone.

The intention to install it in Guam has to do with its ACM (anti-cruise missile) capability. Against this type of threat, the Iron Dome is superior because the Patriot's radar is directional (until the new 360° AESA radar for the Patriot comes into operation, which will fill this gap), and does not cover 360°, while the Iron Dome's is rotational, the same characteristic as the Zoubin, for example. And it is worth remembering that the Iron Dome was adopted in a limited way (two batteries) because it is not compatible with the Sentinel radar, adopted in large quantities by the Americans. In its place, the Americans will adopt the Enduring Shield system, based on the AIM-9X/2, which will fulfill the ACM function.

hahahahaha

What is this? A dispute of ego? Dude, this is childish behavior.
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If you are going to debate over something as stupid as this. Then its upto you.
Those so quick & so fast bursts of AA fire and you think Iran is intercepting 100s of Israeli missiles ????? LMAO!!!

You know when confronted with facts, its the best idea to accept the facts and move on. Its better than humiliating yourself.

Please see below photo: That's whats AA fire looks like in the day time. This is from WW2. In the night time, it looks exactly as those Iranian AA precautionary fire. That video shows only AA shells exploding as they are supposed to be. Only a fool will assume that its taking down cruise or ballistic missiles.

anti-aircraft-fireJ.jpg
 
ghazi52 said:

Iran knows, if it strikes again Israel will hit back even harder​

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Lyse Doucet
BBC Chief international correspondent

Civilian flights are taking off, as scheduled, says Iran’s aviation authority. Traffic is flowing normally says Iranian TV channels as they broadcast images from provinces now in the eyes of the world.

Israel’s attacks on “military centres” were "successfully intercepted” by the country’s air defences - is the official version of what happened in the early hours of the morning in three waves of Israeli attacks.

So far, they’ve only spoken of “limited damage” and the deaths of two Iranian soldiers.

After Israel’s first largely symbolic strike in April, Iran dismissed its significance and drew a line under it. This time, there may be an off ramp again.

Tehran will also need to assess how much damage was done to its air defences, knowing that if it strikes again, Israel will hit back - even harder.

The Islamic Republic, which doesn’t want to be drawn into an even more dangerous all-out war, will also weigh up the political cost - at home and in the region - of responding or not, before it decides on its next move.
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incredibly biased framing on this BBC article
 
@Nuffle @UKBengali

Just to explain, how Anti Aircraft fire works. I am showing you an animation scene. I mean there is no need for stupid debate. I am not anti-Iran or pro-israel. Infact I am anti-Israel. But we have to stick with facts whatever our feelings maybe.

This animation in this movie superbly displays how the AA fire works. It explodes in a quick burst. This is what its supposed to do. If there is an interception then you will see a large fireball (much bigger then its usual quick burst)

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