Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[925boy]

this is copium

IRGC recognises the issues and hence announced development of GNSS project

Then why did Iran SL award order of Fath to General Amir Hajizadeh if Op. Tp2 was ineffective?
Also, define what does an effective Iranian strike on Israel mean to you?Israel and west did not release satellite pics for 3 or more weeks after TP2, - that suggests the attack was more effective than not- they told their companies to hide their damage while they licked their wounds and buried their dead. You may have expected perfection but that was not realistic or needed.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Yup. I am surprised Persial gulf is believing every attack pic/sat insge/story etc abt Israel's attacks on ira Ian sites now. Smh

firstly the video is not "fake"

secondly yes I tend to believe satellite imagery when it is clear enough to interpret

 

[Persian Gulf]

Then why did Iran SL award order of Fath to General Amir Hajizadeh if Op. Tp2 was ineffective?

the same IRI that is famously corrupt and who appointed a guy as head of IRGC who believes metal rods can detect COVID

Also, define what does an effective Iranian strike on Israel mean to you?

precisely and effectively hits predefined targets in a way that imposes a real cost on Israel

that was not achieved yet

Israel and west did not release satellite pics for 3 or more weeks after TP2, - that suggests the attack was more effective than not- they told their companies to hide their damage while they licked their wounds and buried their dead. You may have expected perfection but that was not realistic or needed.

they showed one severely damaged hangar and a few other small hits in Nevatim, after some cleaning up I agree

Tel Nof they did not show very well and I remain skeptical of lack of at least 1 good hit there

but you cannot compare the effectiveness of these strikes

 

[wudangmaster]

Anything concrete regarding the S-300? How many, if any, are currently operational?
Also, the aitelly video posted earlier stated that bavar seems to have done better than s-300 and seems to have survived. I think there were sat images on one bavar battery in operation. Anything new on either of these systems?

 

[Snake]

I am willing to guess that Iran will retaliate for this Israeli attack, but Iran will not go for Israeli lives, nut the IRGC is going to cripple Israel's Military industrial complex, which is CRITICAL- knocking out Israel's weapons now will slow down Israel's rate of genociding its neighbors.

This mentality seems to plague Iranian leadership. Unless you're willing to dispatch Zionists to kingdom come they will always encroach. This is not an enemy you can reason with. No matter how much critical infrastructure you destroy it can be rebuilt with American money printer but sending Zionists to hell will teach them there are some things no amount of shekels will fix.

Khameini did pull out a gun at one of his speeches and he did say the Zionist erred in their attack let's see what he decides.

 

[Persian Gulf]

This mentality seems to plague Iranian leadership. Unless you're willing to dispatch Zionists to kingdom come they will always encroach. This is not an enemy you can reason with. No matter how much critical infrastructure you destroy it can be rebuilt with American money printer but sending Zionists to hell will teach them there are some things no amount of shekels will fix.

Khameini did pull out a gun at one of his speeches and he did say the Zionist erred in their attack let's see what he decides.

Israel has benefit of US space based early warning system to give settlers 10 mins advance warning time to flee to shelters to minimise casualties, it's not so easy to kill settlers in this scenario

 

[Persian Gulf]

Anything concrete regarding the S-300? How many, if any, are currently operational?
Also, the aitelly video posted earlier stated that bavar seems to have done better than s-300 and seems to have survived. I think there were sat images on one bavar battery in operation. Anything new on either of these systems?

4 batteries of s-300. no clear evidence of any damage to these. a Hawk site was hit and destroyed and OTH radar site was hit too.

Bavar is not in operational service yet

 

[jauk]

They definitely breached it and this is coming from multiple non-Iranian sources but it was through F-35s and following a very narrow window much like the first wave of GW1.

However, while damage is reported to have been sustained at BM and AD facilities it’s not enough to consider them destroyed - rather puts a pause on them for a few weeks/months.

Unfortunately - because of this emotionally charged atmosphere it is not really clear. After all, take 27th February 2019 when everything from 200 seminary students dead to 10 IAF aircraft shot down and hundreds of troops killed was being thrown around and it took months to really get the true picture.

You will find dismissive Iranians while certain members will exaggerate the effects of the IDf strike - the truth is always in the grey

Incorrect! Misguided ‘gray zoning’ to sound smart! Yellow flag.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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[jauk]

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you are the same guy who said (1) Nasrallah was not killed and (2) there was no second wave

Regardless, the pictures show less than the false conclusions being made here.

 

[jauk]

80% of the hits were not useful unfortunately

of the 32 impacts maybe 5 hit something 'useful'

and remember Iran had to fire 200 missiles to get those 5 useful hits (only one of which did real damage)

*a few other useful hits likely at Tel Nof. so lets assume 5-10 useful hits from 200 missiles.

That’s incorrect analysis. All missiles were terribly useful. Not sure how you’re coming to these false conclusions.

Caution not to be impacted by Zionist propaganda like many did last time.

 

[jauk]

no proof for that claim, could be propaganda

whether they entered Iranian airspace or not, they delivered multiple precise hits to many of the most strategic buildings deep in Iran, doing real damage that will take a long time and a lot of money to fix

This post of yours is less jumping to conclusions then your previous ones. This post too is also impacted though.. Stop repeating ’they we’re precise’. They were not and it’s irrelevant anyway. Nothing of significance took place.

 

[jauk]

Anything concrete regarding the S-300? How many, if any, are currently operational?
Also, the aitelly video posted earlier stated that bavar seems to have done better than s-300 and seems to have survived. I think there were sat images on one bavar battery in operation. Anything new on either of these systems?

Nothing to survive. Unless you’re listening to antiIranian channels that scream ALL S300s were destroyed.

 

[Gabriel]

WOW the damages are strategic n important sites, Prove that Israel can attack Iran anytime. Iran AD is can't do much

 

[Shadihassan28]

Israel has benefit of US space based early warning system to give settlers 10 mins advance warning time to flee to shelters to minimise casualties, it's not so easy to kill settlers in this scenario

Honestly as much Israelis have been purposely striking civilians easily looked up bomb shelters isn’t that hard surprisingly not state secrets