Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[UKBengali]

I have no idea why anyone thinks that Iran cannot hit with precision as 80% of the hits on that Zionists airbase was on a "useful" target like hangar/taxiway/runway.

Statistically it is impossible to land so many on these targets unless you are looking at 10-30m CEP.

If the CEP was higher than this then we may have 1-2 hits on these points rather than the vast majority.

 

[Persian Gulf]

show me just one evidence of a single destroyed iranian military building,

you are the same guy who said (1) Nasrallah was not killed and (2) there was no second wave

 

[Persian Gulf]

I have no idea why anyone thinks that Iran cannot hit with precision as 80% of the hits on that Zionists airbase was on a "useful" target like hangar/taxiway/runway.

Statistically it is impossible to land so many on these targets unless you are looking at 10-30m CEP.

If the CEP was higher than this then we may have 1-2 hits on these points rather than the vast majority.

80% of the hits were not useful unfortunately

of the 32 impacts maybe 5 hit something 'useful'

and remember Iran had to fire 200 missiles to get those 5 useful hits (only one of which did real damage)

*a few other useful hits likely at Tel Nof. so lets assume 5-10 useful hits from 200 missiles.

 

[Kyussis]

They seemed to have breached Iranian skies, according to the latest reports.

True or not, air defenses don't just cover sovereign land, they usually expand to neighboring territory, as to intercept in coming attacks.

Is their any proof that they actually penetrated Iranian airspace? According to Iranian Military statments the Israelis released their payloads from well within Iraqi airspace 100Km from the border.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Is their any proof that they actually penetrated Iranian airspace? According to Iranian Military statments the Israelis released their payloads from well within Iraqi airspace 100Km from the border.

no proof for that claim, could be propaganda

whether they entered Iranian airspace or not, they delivered multiple precise hits to many of the most strategic buildings deep in Iran, doing real damage that will take a long time and a lot of money to fix

 

[925boy]

That is the problem Iran has right now - its strikes cannot do as much damage - they are not precise enough. Iran needs to rethink its approach.

The BM attacks create for an impressive light show, but actual damage it limited.

If the damage Iranian missiles did to israel in operation true promose II is so small, why have israel and western countries still not released satellite pics of Israel's tel nof air base?it's been weeks since that attack?


But meanwhile , 1 -2 days after this lightweight Israeli air attack, Reuters has posted probably AI generated satellite images exaggerating Israel's strikes on Iran.

We have to be less naive, manipulation and distortion and propaganda of western countries is at its peak now. Don't fall for it.

 

[Developereo]

In reality, the Israelis were too scared to engage in what has always been their real target: Irans nuclear program.

Neither Israel nor US wanted to risk an F-35 in Iranian skies because both Russia and Iran are eager to shoot down an F-35 in combat.

The propaganda impact of an F-35 shootdown would be significant for both sides.

 

[Hypersonic]

Neither Israel nor US wanted to risk an F-35 in Iranian skies because both Russia and Iran are eager to shoot down an F-35 in combat.

The propaganda impact of an F-35 shootdown would be significant for both sides.

Exactly!!!

 

[Kyussis]

no proof for that claim, could be propaganda

whether they entered Iranian airspace or not, they delivered multiple precise hits to many of the most strategic buildings deep in Iran, doing real damage that will take a long time and a lot of money to fix!

I am not surprised that Israel would have such capabilities considering the heavy military support that is given to them by the U.S!

 

[925boy]

I am willing to guess that Iran will retaliate for this Israeli attack, but Iran will not go for Israeli lives, nut the IRGC is going to cripple Israel's Military industrial complex, which is CRITICAL- knocking out Israel's weapons now will slow down Israel's rate of genociding its neighbors.

 

[UKBengali]

Neither Israel nor US wanted to risk an F-35 in Iranian skies because both Russia and Iran are eager to shoot down an F-35 in combat.

The propaganda impact of an F-35 shootdown would be significant for both sides.

Don't forget that Russian, Iranian and Chinese engineers would immediately be dissecting every part of whatever survives.

Ridiculous as there is everything to lose and not much to gain as the F-35 cannot carry much in its internal weapons bays anyway.

 

[UKBengali]

If the damage Iranian missiles did to israel in operation true promose II is so small, why have israel and western countries still not released satellite pics of Israel's tel nof air base?it's been weeks since that attack?


But meanwhile , 1 -2 days after this lightweight Israeli air attack, Reuters has posted probably AI generated satellite images exaggerating Israel's strikes on Iran.

We have to be less naive, manipulation and distortion and propaganda of western countries is at its peak now. Don't fall for it.

They also took days to release images(grainy) from Nevatim as well.

Probably to patch up hits to runways/taxiways and potentially parked planes.

 

[Shadihassan28]

Don't forget that Russian, Iranian and Chinese engineers would immediately be dissecting every part of whatever survives.

Ridiculous as there is everything to lose and not much to gain as the F-35 cannot carry much in its internal weapons bays anyway.

Honestly I hope whatever the Iranians get from Iraq booster or failed rockets or whatever missiles parts they can reverse engineer from parts found in iran I hope the Iranians do not share with China or Russia definitely not China the Chinese especially have shown that they are not willing to help iran unless they receive something worthwhile mainly their oil industry, Russia at least if not offensive weapons can be sending defensive gear that are not near Ukraine but other parts of Russia that are not defending against a nato “invasion”

 

[Developereo]

Don't forget that Russian, Iranian and Chinese engineers would immediately be dissecting every part of whatever survives.

Ridiculous as there is everything to lose and not much to gain as the F-35 cannot carry much in its internal weapons bays anyway.

I am sure Russia and China have lots of spy data but it's a completely different ball game to gather data in actual combat, not some dopey exercise, and to collect pieces of an actual aircraft for materials analysis, etc.

I am sure the Chinese had plenty of spy data on US stealth helicopters but they were still eager to get parts from the crashed Black Hawk in the 2011 Abbottabad raid.

Bin Laden raid: China 'viewed US helicopter wreckage'

Pakistan allowed China to examine the remains of the US stealth helicopter downed in the raid on Osama Bin Laden, US officials believe.

www.bbc.com

He said Chinese engineers were allowed to survey the wreckage and take samples of the "stealth" skin that allowed the Seals to enter Pakistan undetected by radar, according to the paper.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Image of the radar site Israel hit