Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[vmro]

I always say that there is a possibility that some Ikhwan al-Muslimin factions inside Hamas orchestrated October 7th with Turkey and Qatar to drag Iran into the war. Iran and our allies were completely unaware of Hamas plans for attacking Israel.

Everything is possible, but I have some doubts about this theory... first, this regime in Qatar was isolated by Saudis and only Iran saved them from total isolation, making Saudis attempt pointless and they stepped back...

Second, Bibi always wanted to be remembered as the man who destroyed Hezbollah, and this operations of decapitation and etcetera were already prepared and ready for execution, waiting IDF readiness to start...

Maybe you are right, but I am not sure that Qatar was ready for such adventure after past experiences...

 

[BHAN85]

 

[LongLiveIran]

Everything is possible, but I have some doubts about this theory... first, this regime in Qatar was isolated by Saudis and only Iran saved them from total isolation, making Saudis attempt pointless and they stepped back...

Second, Bibi always wanted to be remembered as the man who destroyed Hezbollah, and this operations of decapitation and etcetera were already prepared and ready for execution, waiting IDF readiness to start...

Maybe you are right, but I am not sure that Qatar was ready for such adventure after past experiences...

Arab monarchies in the Persian Gulf have a history of biting our hand after helping them. Oman is possibly the only exception to this rule.

Iran helped Kuwait when Saddam invaded Kuwait but that never stopped Kuwait from joining the Saudi sphere of influence against Iran just a few years after that. Even now we have disputes with Kuwait over Arash oil field.

If you want to know how pro-Iran Qatar is, look at what Al-Jazeera broadcasts. Their target audience is Muslims but it's still far from pro-Iran when it comes to the Israeli issue. Not convinced yet? Qatar hosts the largest US military base in the region. If my memory serves me well, the drone that assassinated Soleimani likely took off from Al-Udeid Air Base in Qatar. The B-2 bombers that bombed Houthies of Yemeni a few days ago took off from Qatar. Not convinced yet? Qatar is closer to Erdogan in Turkey than it is to Iran and Turkey is a member of NATO. Turkey, as a regional power, does benefit from the Israel-Iran war in many ways.

 

[Flotilla]

You are assuming that the escalation ladder will stop somewhere in favor of Iran. Amen to that. That's what I want too but you have to admit that it's highly unlikely.

So far, Israel has the upper hand in the escalation ladder. They have attacked Iran 3 times while Iran has attacked Israel 2 times. They have killed 5 Iranians while Iran has killed zero Israelis directly. I don't even talk about their successful hits because I'm sure Iran has had multiple successful hits on Nevatim and Tel Nof but we don't have access to satellite photos to fully see the scale of our success.

Nevertheless, I strongly believe that Israel will not stop escalating because their whole idea of supremacy in the region is based on them being in control of escalation and they won't give up on this easily. Without the threat of disproportionate response and escalation, Israel cannot survive in the Middle East in long run.

The nuclear weapons will stop escalation. But unfortunately many steps must be climbed before reach it.

 

[Mehdipersian]

They had planned for this confrontation since October 7th. Iran has no choice but to respond to the Israeli aggression. There was no degree of freedom to begin with. Things are moving forward in a predictable way, possibly as planned, for a larger confrontation between Iran and Israel, and maybe the US.

I always say that there is a possibility that some Ikhwan al-Muslimin factions inside Hamas orchestrated October 7th with Turkey and Qatar to drag Iran into the war. Iran and our allies were completely unaware of Hamas plans for attacking Israel.

Even if something like this is real, it was the duty of Iran, Hezbollah, Yemen, etc. to help the people of Gaza and prevent genocide.

Also, we had previous vengeance with Israel.

 

[LongLiveIran]

Even if something like this is real, it was the duty of Iran, Hezbollah, Yemen, etc. to help the people of Gaza and prevent genocide.

Also, we had previous vengeance with Israel.

My point is that they (the West and Israel) want war. They have already decided that they want war with Iran and even if we don't give them an excuse for that, they will make one after another. So, at this point, we have no choice but to defend ourselves to the best of our ability.
In my opinion, we should level up our deterrence by going after high-yield nuclear weapons.

 

[Mehdipersian]

My point is that they (the West and Israel) want war. They have already decided that they want war with Iran and even if we don't give them an excuse for that, they will make one after another. So, at this point, we have no choice but to defend ourselves to the best of our ability.
In my opinion, we should level up our deterrence by going after high-yield nuclear weapons.

Iran's sanctions and their heavy efforts against Iran's military and nuclear programs and their Propaganda in world media ,all showed that they want war. Iran knows this too.

 

[jauk]

You are assuming that the escalation ladder will stop somewhere in favor of Iran. Amen to that. That's what I want too but you have to admit that it's highly unlikely.

So far, Israel has the upper hand in the escalation ladder. They have attacked Iran 3 times while Iran has attacked Israel 2 times. They have killed 5 Iranians while Iran has killed zero Israelis directly. I don't even talk about their successful hits because I'm sure Iran has had multiple successful hits on Nevatim and Tel Nof but we don't have access to satellite photos to fully see the scale of our success.

Nevertheless, I strongly believe that Israel will not stop escalating because their whole idea of supremacy in the region is based on them being in control of escalation and they won't give up on this easily. Without the threat of disproportionate response and escalation, Israel cannot survive in the Middle East in long run.

Incorrect. You seem not to be aware of Zionia’s strategic defeat October 7.

The Resistance started the escalation ladder’ and continues to have an advantage.

 

[jauk]

yes he has

he said we must respond and the relevant military officials must decide how to respond

He said no such thing. What he said was far deeper and impactful rather than these childish comments.

 

[Persian Gulf]

He said no such thing. What he said was far deeper and impactful rather than these childish comments.

childish? tell us what he said and how different it is from what I said

he said exactly 'our officials should assess and decide what needs to be done' (the response)

 

[TallGuy]

May be ....May be its the not the BMs now that they should worry. what if True promise three is ground front.

May be that is why the entity "preemptively" threaten Syria.

what if Zainabyuns and Fatimiyun will be introduced at Syrian Front

how many army units (brigade and a division already committed in Lebanon). it will create a strategic dislocation at Golan.

 

[vmro]

Arab monarchies in the Persian Gulf have a history of biting our hand after helping them. Oman is possibly the only exception to this rule.

Iran helped Kuwait when Saddam invaded Kuwait but that never stopped Kuwait from joining the Saudi sphere of influence against Iran just a few years after that. Even now we have disputes with Kuwait over Arash oil field.

If you want to know how pro-Iran Qatar is, look at what Al-Jazeera broadcasts. Their target audience is Muslims but it's still far from pro-Iran when it comes to the Israeli issue. Not convinced yet? Qatar hosts the largest US military base in the region. If my memory serves me well, the drone that assassinated Soleimani likely took off from Al-Udeid Air Base in Qatar. The B-2 bombers that bombed Houthies of Yemeni a few days ago took off from Qatar. Not convinced yet? Qatar is closer to Erdogan in Turkey than it is to Iran and Turkey is a member of NATO. Turkey, as a regional power, does benefit from the Israel-Iran war in many ways.

They have to provide something to zionists also, of course, but are trying to rebrand state, Switzerland of the Middle East, benevolent mediator...uae is similar case, for Kuwait I have no idea honestly...they become aware that Iran is alternative guarantee of sovereignty, in the way presented during Qatar-Saudi conflict...

American base in Qatar is american in every aspect, respected by Qatari mighty military forces....


And I am bit schizophrenic about Al Jazeera, from one side, they are probably more influential than cnn and bbc combined, in bad relations with regime in tel Aviv, and probably most important enemy of Israeli propaganda and narrative...

But way they do so nasty, jealousy, unfair present Hezbollah is too much for me to respect them in general...Hezbollah in brutal fight stopped any IDF attempt to invade Lebanon, because are near collapse...if idf managed to invade country, that means they are near collapse...

Without idf and Hezbollah, Middle East would be paradise...raping of common sense...two sides of one coin... bulimia news...

 

[jauk]

childish? tell us what he said and how different it is from what I said

he said exactly 'our officials should assess and decide what needs to be done' (the response)

You changed your quote. Please fix and repost and I’ll respond.

Anyway, here are a few clips:

They make n missing comment he said is that “the enemies are miscalculating. They miscalculate Iran and the Iranian nation. This miscalculation must be rectified.”

 

[Mehdipersian]

childish? tell us what he said and how different it is from what I said

he said exactly 'our officials should assess and decide what needs to be done' (the response)

Imam Khamenei said that Iran should attack in such a way that all the plans of Israel and the West will fail

 

[Aziqbal]

Imam Khamenei said that Iran should attack in such a way that all the plans of Israel and the West will fail

its a tough battle because Iran is pretty much alone and all the Arabs have to do is stand and watch and they cant help themselves but actually help Israel treacherous snakes

Iran then has to fight it out with the US, US I dont think wants this war but the Israeli Prime Minister has more control of the US military than the siting US President

if Trump wins I think he will pick up the phone and end this war in 24 hours

either way Russia and Iran have been in overdrive fighting off the West for the last 3 years and seems like now North Korea has joined with the latest nuclear test they are definitely up for a fight with China providing the soft technologies

the World order is in taters and the West has proved one thing, they are definitely not qualified from a moral stand point to run the show

Iran has to win this one, for the sake for the free world Iran needs to win